Re: [Salon] A deadly seven days in Palestine

It wasn’t an accident that the Federalist Papers they, Kendall and Carey, disproportionally focused on favorably, was Alexander Haniliton’s, and not James Madison’s. To whom toward the latter their writings would have been totally hostile to, particularly post-1787, while adoring of some of Hamilton’s most odious sections. I read their works, particularly “The Basic Symbols of the American Political Tradition,” which was perhaps their most odious, anti-constitutional, ideologically, authoritarian work, with their extreme hostility to the Bill of Rights permeating practically every page. But it captures Kendall’s extreme hostility to the actual Constitution, even as just first amended in 1789, without any later amendments but the Bill of Rights, beginning most forcefully against the First Amendment as I’ve shared here before. 

Call me a “Radical,” but I fervently support the First Amendment! Especially against Willmoore Kendall’s and George Carey’s open hostility to it, if you want to know the truth.  

On Dec 5, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Tom Pauken <twpauken@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Todd, I guess you would call the Federalist papers a “fascist” document since that is the basis of the American political theory Willmoore Kendall expounded You don’t understand the differences between the thinking of Willmoore Kendall and Leo Strauss. Kendall was an American who understood the American political tradition while Strauss was a European thinker who didn’t share a similar appreciation of it. While Kendall admired much of Strauss’ thinking, e.g., his understanding of Machiavelli’s break with the classical political tradition, Kendall was no Straussian. Tom Pauken
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On Dec 5, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Todd Pierce via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:

Everyone here should subscribe to Mondoweisss! And they’re not afraid to call political phenomena by its “true name,” as can be seen here:


Tom Pauken “gently chides” me for using the term “fascist.” But I’m simply adopting the correct political theory term as used by Jewish and Israeli critics of such a form of politics bearing all the indicators of “fascism,” albeit the “democratic” form of it. As originally  promoted by Leo Strauss and his American friend Willmoore Kendall who helped found the Conservative Movement. And what would I be if I used that same term to describe only Israeli fascists, and refrained from using it to describe their American co-ideologists? 

While we know the Biden Administration represents little or no, let alone, “ genuine,” opposition to these fascists, as Mondoweiss correctly calls them, reflecting what Israeli’s themselves recognize them as. But these are the same people that Trump, DeSantis, the Republican Party, et al., “Conservatives” in general, collaborate with and are allied to, and share the same ideology with, in the many ways I’ve shared here in the past, and as can be seen here in the articles below. It’s a relatively new political phenomenon, but only in the sense that it has gained such power today, after having been introduced by Leo Strauss and Willmoorre Kendall in the 1950s as what Kendall called “Democratic Majoritarianism,” in which a “Minority” has no rights, nor does the “Majority,” in actuality, with no Bill of Rights to begin with. Which I think can appropriately be called “Democratic Fascism,” in the same sense that Princeton political theorist Sheldon Wolin began calling the US system “Inverted Totarlitarianism” back in 2003, or of what Israeli Jacob Talmon called “Totalitarian Democracy” of the East European states during the Cold War.
 


"Trump remains popular in some Jewish conservative circles; he was honored by the Zionist Organization of America earlier this month — an event that he attended in person. Trump executed historic changes in Israel policy, among other things, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, dropping a commitment to a two-state outcome and quitting the Iran nuclear deal."

"One influential conference-goer who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order not to be attached to a presidential nominee too early in the process said DeSantis was his favorite going into the weekend. DeSantis, he said, embraced Trump’s policies, but more effectively and with “discipline.”

Ahh yes, what is fascism, without “discipline?"


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