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(AP) =E2=80=94 Fethullah G=C3=BClen, a reclusive U.S.-base= d Islamic cleric who inspired a global social movement while facing unproven accusations that he masterminded a failed 2016 coup in his native Turkey, has died. The Alliance for Shared Values, a New York-based group that promotes G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s work in the U.S., said that G=C3=BClen died Sunday nig= ht at a hospital near his home in Pennsylvania=E2=80=99s Pocono Mountains. Monroe County Cor= oner Thomas Yanac Jr. said he was informed that G=C3=BClen, who was in his eight= ies and had long been in ill health, died of natural causes. The group called him a =E2=80=9Ctowering figure of faith, wisdom, intellect= ual and spiritual leadership=E2=80=9D whose =E2=80=9Cimpact will be felt for genera= tions.=E2=80=9D G=C3=BClen spent the last decades of his life in self-exile, living in a ga= ted compound and wielding influence among his millions of followers. He espoused a philosophy that blended Sufism =E2=80=94 a mystical form of Isla= m =E2=80=94 with staunch advocacy of democracy, education, science and interfaith dialogue. G=C3=BClen had not played an active role in his movement in recent years. A group of close friends who have advised him for decades will carry on the work, according to the Alliance for Shared Values. The religious leader began as an ally of Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoga= n but became a foe. He called Erdogan an authoritarian bent on accumulating power and crushing dissent. Erdogan cast G=C3=BClen as a terrorist, accusing him of orchestrating the attempted military coup on July 15, 2016, when factions within the military used tanks, warplanes and helicopters to try to overthrow the government. Heeding a call from the president, thousands took to the streets to oppose the takeover attempt. The coup plotters fired at crowds and bombed parliament and other government buildings. A total of 251 people were killed and around 2,200 others were wounded. Around 35 alleged coup plotters were killed. G=C3=BClen adamantly denied involvement, and his supporters dismissed the charges as ridiculous and politically motivated. Turkey put G=C3=BClen on i= ts most-wanted list and demanded his extradition, but the United States showed little inclination to send him back, saying it needed more evidence. He was never charged with a crime in the U.S., and he consistently denounced terrorism as well as the coup plotters. Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said Monday that G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s = death =E2=80=9Cwill not make us complacent or relaxed. This organization has been a threat rarely seen in the history of our nation.=E2=80=9D He called on G=C3=BClen= =E2=80=99s followers to turn away from =E2=80=9Cthis treasonous wrong path.=E2=80=9D In Turkey, G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s movement =E2=80=94 sometimes known as Hizme= t, Turkish for =E2=80=9Cservice=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 has been subjected to a broad crackdown . The government arrested tens of thousands of people for their alleged link to the coup plot, sacked more than 130,000 suspected supporters from civil service jobs and more than 23,000 from the military, and closed hundreds of businesses, schools and media organizations tied to G=C3=BClen. G=C3=BClen called the crackdown a witch hunt and denounced Turkey=E2=80=99s= leaders as =E2=80=9Ctyrants.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CThe last year has taken a toll on me as hundreds of thousands of i= nnocent Turkish citizens are being punished simply because the government decides they are somehow =E2=80=98connected=E2=80=99 to me or the Hizmet movement a= nd treats that alleged connection as a crime,=E2=80=9D he said on the first anniversary of= the failed coup. Ozgur Ozel, the leader of Turkey=E2=80=99s main opposition Republican Peopl= e=E2=80=99s Party, said G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s vast network remained a threat to Turkey. =E2=80=9CThe founder is dead but the organization remains. No one should th= ink that this danger has passed or is over. Everyone should be on guard against this organization,=E2=80=9D Ozel said. On Monday, Turkey=E2=80=99s broadcasting regulator warned against content p= raising Gulen, saying no broadcaster can honor a =E2=80=9Cterrorist.=E2=80=9D Meanw= hile, prosecutors in the northwestern province of Bursa launched an investigation into a journalist on possible charges of engaging in terrorist propaganda, the state-run Anadolu Agency reported, after she said she hoped he would rest in heaven. Abdulhamit Bilici, who was editor of the Gulen-affiliated Zaman newspaper when Erdogan shut it down in early 2016, said Monday that Gulen was subjected to decades of persecution in Turkey, and that Turkey is the only nation that claims G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s peaceful Hizmet movement is a terro= r group. =E2=80=9CHe was a source of inspiration for millions of people, not just in= Turkey, but around the world,=E2=80=9D Bilici said in an interview at the Pennsylva= nia retreat center where Gulen lived. =E2=80=9CSo this is a very sad day and a = day of reflection, mourning and thinking and prayer.=E2=80=9D Fethullah G=C3=BClen was born in Erzurum, in eastern Turkey. His official b= irth date was April 27, 1941, but that has long been in dispute. Y. Alp Aslandogan, who leads a New York-based group that promotes G=C3=BClen=E2=80= =99s ideas and work, said G=C3=BClen was actually born sometime in 1938. Trained as an imam, or prayer leader, G=C3=BClen gained notice in Turkey so= me 50 years ago. He preached tolerance and dialogue between faiths =E2=80=94 meet= ing with Pope John Paul II in 1998 =E2=80=94 and he believed religion and science co= uld go hand in hand. His belief in merging Islam with Western values and Turkish nationalism struck a chord with Turks, earning him millions of followers. G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s acolytes built a loosely affiliated global network of = charitable foundations, professional associations, businesses and schools in more than 100 countries, including 150 taxpayer-funded charter schools throughout the United States. In Turkey, supporters ran universities, hospitals, charities, a bank and a large media empire with newspapers and radio and TV stations. But G=C3=BClen was viewed with suspicion by some in his homeland, a deeply polarized country split between those loyal to its fiercely secular traditions and supporters of the Islamic-based party associated with Erdogan that came to power in 2002. G=C3=BClen had long refrained from openly supporting any political party, b= ut his movement forged a de facto alliance with Erdogan against the country=E2= =80=99s old guard of staunch, military-backed secularists, and G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s= media empire threw its weight behind Erdogan=E2=80=99s Islamic-oriented government. G=C3=BClenists helped the governing party win multiple elections. But the Erdogan-G=C3=BClen alliance began to crumble after the movement criticized government policy and exposed alleged corruption among Erdogan=E2=80=99s in= ner circle. Erdogan, who denied the allegations, grew weary of the growing influence of G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s movement. The Turkish leader accused G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s followers of infiltrating t= he country=E2=80=99s police and judiciary and setting up a parallel state and began agitating for G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s extradition to Turkey even before the failed 2016 = coup. The cleric had lived in the United States since 1999 when he came to seek medical treatment. In 2000, with G=C3=BClen still in the U.S., Turkish authorities charged him= with leading an Islamist plot to overthrow the country=E2=80=99s secular form of government and establish a religious state. Some of the accusations against him were based on a tape recording on which G=C3=BClen was alleged to have told supporters of an Islamic state to bide = their time: =E2=80=9CIf they come out too early, the world will quash their heads= .=E2=80=9D G=C3=BClen said his comments were taken out of context. The cleric was tried in absentia and acquitted but never returned to his homeland. He won a lengthy legal battle against the administration of then-President George W. Bush to obtain permanent residency in the U.S. Rarely seen in public, G=C3=BClen lived quietly on the grounds of an Islami= c retreat center. He left mostly only to see doctors for ailments that included heart disease and diabetes, spending much of his time in prayer and meditation and receiving visitors from around the world. G=C3=BClen never married and did not have children. *___* Associated Press writer Suzan Fraser in Ankara, Turkey, contributed to this report. --0000000000003e567d06250d2883 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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SAYLORSBURG, Pa. (AP) =E2=80=94 Fethullah G=C3=BClen, a reclusive U.S.-based Islamic cl= eric who=20 inspired a global social movement while facing unproven accusations that he masterminded a failed 2016 coup= in his native Turkey, has died.

The Alliance for Shared Values, a New York-based group that promotes=20 G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s work in the U.S., said that G=C3=BClen died Sunday nig= ht at a=20 hospital near his home in Pennsylvania=E2=80=99s Pocono Mountains. Monroe C= ounty Coroner Thomas Yanac Jr. said he was informed that G=C3=BClen, who was in= =20 his eighties and had long been in ill health, died of natural causes.

The group called him a =E2=80=9Ctowering figure of faith, wisdom, intellectual= and=20 spiritual leadership=E2=80=9D whose =E2=80=9Cimpact will be felt for genera= tions.=E2=80=9D

G=C3=BClen spent the last decades of his life in self-exile, living in a gated=20 compound and wielding influence among his millions of followers. He=20 espoused a philosophy that blended Sufism =E2=80=94 a mystical form of Isla= m =E2=80=94=20 with staunch advocacy of democracy, education, science and interfaith=20 dialogue.

G=C3=BClen had not played an active role in his movement in recent years. A group=20 of close friends who have advised him for decades will carry on the=20 work, according to the Alliance for Shared Values.

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The religious leader began as an ally of Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan but became a foe. He called Erdogan an authoritarian bent on=20 accumulating power and crushing dissent. Erdogan cast G=C3=BClen as a=20 terrorist, accusing him of orchestrating the attempted military coup on=20 July 15, 2016, when factions within the military used tanks, warplanes=20 and helicopters to try to overthrow the government.

Heeding a call from the president, thousands took to the streets to oppose the=20 takeover attempt. The coup plotters fired at crowds and bombed=20 parliament and other government buildings. A total of 251 people were=20 killed and around 2,200 others were wounded. Around 35 alleged coup=20 plotters were killed.

G=C3=BClen adamantly denied involvement, and his supporters dismissed the charges=20 as ridiculous and politically motivated. Turkey put G=C3=BClen on its=20 most-wanted list and demanded his extradition, but the United States=20 showed little inclination to send him back, saying it needed more=20 evidence. He was never charged with a crime in the U.S., and he=20 consistently denounced terrorism as well as the coup plotters.

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said Monday that G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s death = =E2=80=9Cwill not=20 make us complacent or relaxed. This organization has been a threat=20 rarely seen in the history of our nation.=E2=80=9D He called on G=C3=BClen= =E2=80=99s=20 followers to turn away from =E2=80=9Cthis treasonous wrong path.=E2=80=9D

In Turkey, G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s movement =E2=80= =94 sometimes known as Hizmet, Turkish for =E2=80=9Cservice=E2=80=9D =E2=80= =94 has been subjected to a broad crackdown. The government arrested tens of thousands of people for their alleged=20 link to the coup plot, sacked more than 130,000 suspected supporters=20 from civil service jobs and more than 23,000 from the military, and=20 closed hundreds of businesses, schools and media organizations tied to=20 G=C3=BClen.

G=C3=BClen called the crackdown a = witch hunt and denounced Turkey=E2=80=99s leaders as =E2=80=9Ctyrants.=E2= =80=9D

=E2=80=9CThe last year has taken a toll on me as hundreds of thousands of innocent=20 Turkish citizens are being punished simply because the government=20 decides they are somehow =E2=80=98connected=E2=80=99 to me or the Hizmet mo= vement and=20 treats that alleged connection as a crime,=E2=80=9D he said on the first=20 anniversary of the failed coup.

Ozgur Ozel, the leader of Turkey=E2=80=99s main opposition Republican People=E2= =80=99s Party, said G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s vast network remained a threat to Turkey.=

=E2=80=9CThe founder is dead but the organization remains. No one should think that=20 this danger has passed or is over. Everyone should be on guard against=20 this organization,=E2=80=9D Ozel said.

On Monday, Turkey=E2=80=99s broadcasting regulator warned against content pra= ising Gulen, saying no broadcaster can honor a =E2=80=9Cterrorist.=E2=80=9D Mean= while,=20 prosecutors in the northwestern province of Bursa launched an=20 investigation into a journalist on possible charges of engaging in=20 terrorist propaganda, the state-run Anadolu Agency reported, after she=20 said she hoped he would rest in heaven.

Abdulh= amit Bilici, who was editor of the Gulen-affiliated Zaman newspaper when=20 Erdogan shut it down in early 2016, said Monday that Gulen was subjected to decades of persecution in Turkey, and that Turkey is the only nation that claims G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s peaceful Hizmet movement is a terror grou= p.

=E2=80=9CHe was a source of inspiration for millions of people, not just in Turkey, but around the world,=E2=80=9D Bilici said in an interview at the Pennsylv= ania=20 retreat center where Gulen lived. =E2=80=9CSo this is a very sad day and a = day=20 of reflection, mourning and thinking and prayer.=E2=80=9D

Fethullah G=C3=BClen was born in Erzurum, in eastern Turkey. His official birth date= =20 was April 27, 1941, but that has long been in dispute. Y. Alp=20 Aslandogan, who leads a New York-based group that promotes G=C3=BClen=E2=80= =99s ideas and work, said G=C3=BClen was actually born sometime in 1938.

Trained as an imam, or prayer leader, G=C3=BClen gained notice in Turkey some 50= =20 years ago. He preached tolerance and dialogue between faiths =E2=80=94 meet= ing=20 with Pope John Paul II in 1998 =E2=80=94 and he believed religion and scien= ce=20 could go hand in hand. His belief in merging Islam with Western values=20 and Turkish nationalism struck a chord with Turks, earning him millions=20 of followers.

G=C3=BClen= =E2=80=99s acolytes built a loosely affiliated global network of charitable=20 foundations, professional associations, businesses and schools in more=20 than 100 countries, including 150 taxpayer-funded charter schools=20 throughout the United States. In Turkey, supporters ran universities,=20 hospitals, charities, a bank and a large media empire with newspapers=20 and radio and TV stations.

<= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"= >But G=C3=BClen was viewed with suspicion by some in his homeland, a deeply=20 polarized country split between those loyal to its fiercely secular=20 traditions and supporters of the Islamic-based party associated with=20 Erdogan that came to power in 2002.

G=C3=BClen had long refrained from openly supporting any political party, but his=20 movement forged a de facto alliance with Erdogan against the country=E2=80= =99s=20 old guard of staunch, military-backed secularists, and G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s= media=20 empire threw its weight behind Erdogan=E2=80=99s Islamic-oriented governmen= t.

G=C3=BClenists helped the governing party win multiple elections. But the=20 Erdogan-G=C3=BClen alliance began to crumble after the movement criticized= =20 government policy and exposed alleged corruption among Erdogan=E2=80=99s in= ner=20 circle. Erdogan, who denied the allegations, grew weary of the growing=20 influence of G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s movement.

The Turkish leader accused G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s followers of infiltrating the = country=E2=80=99s=20 police and judiciary and setting up a parallel state and began agitating for G=C3=BClen=E2=80=99s extradition to Turkey even before the failed 2016= coup.

The cleric had live= d in the United States since 1999 when he came to seek medical treatment.

In 2000, with G=C3=BClen still in the U.S., Turkish authorities charged him= =20 with leading an Islamist plot to overthrow the country=E2=80=99s secular fo= rm of government and establish a religious state.

Some of the accusations against him were based on a tape recording on which=20 G=C3=BClen was alleged to have told supporters of an Islamic state to bide= =20 their time: =E2=80=9CIf they come out too early, the world will quash their= =20 heads.=E2=80=9D G=C3=BClen said his comments were taken out of context.<= /u>

The cleric was tried in absentia and acquitted but never returned to his=20 homeland. He won a lengthy legal battle against the administration of=20 then-President George W. Bush to obtain permanent residency in the U.S.<= /u>

Rarely seen in public, G=C3=BClen lived quietly on the grounds of an Islamic=20 retreat center. He left mostly only to see doctors for ailments that=20 included heart disease and diabetes, spending much of his time in prayer and meditation and receiving visitors from around the world.=

G=C3=BClen never married and did not ha= ve children.

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Associated Press writer = Suzan Fraser in Ankara, Turkey, contributed to this report.

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Over the weekend, Musk remarked, again, that =E2=80=9Cno one=E2=80=99s even bothering to try to ki= ll Kamala=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 while he was speaking in a house of God. Acting as a Donald Trump surrogate =E2=80=94 in addition to the $75 million moneyman behind a leading Trump Super PAC =E2=80=94 Musk spoke Saturday night at the Life Center megachurch in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which is notable for launching the career of Christian supremacist God-rocker Sean Feucht . The event made news for Musk=E2=80=99s promised cash giveaway. He=E2=80=99s pledged a daily, $1 mil= lion sweepstakes for registered swing-state voters who sign his Super PAC=E2=80=99s petition= about supporting the First and Second Amendments about free speech and access to guns. =E2=80=9CThe Second Amendment,=E2=80=9D Musk insisted, =E2=80=9Cis th= ere to protect the First Amendment.=E2=80=9D But Musk also used the pro-gun rally to attempt =E2=80=94 for at least the = third time =E2=80=94 to land his =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D about someone making an a= ttempt on the life of Trump=E2=80=99s rival and the sitting vice president, Harris. Musk=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D is steeped in a conspiracy theory tha= t Washington is controlled by what he called =E2=80=9Cthe uniparty=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cthe= machine,=E2=80=9D which he darkly =E2=80=94 and without evidence =E2=80=94 links to the recent attempt= s on Trump=E2=80=99s life. =E2=80=9CI just call it the machine, [the] big government machine,=E2=80=9D= Musk told attendees of his church rally. =E2=80=9CAnd when the Biden puppet was not w= orking out, they got a new puppet. But it=E2=80=99s still the same machine, obviou= sly,=E2=80=9D he added of Harris replacing President Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. Musk then alleged that returning Trump to the White House would be =E2=80= =9Cthe thing that scares the system=E2=80=9D because =E2=80=9CDonald Trump is not = a puppet, he=E2=80=99s a real person,=E2=80=9D adding darkly: =E2=80=9CThat=E2=80=99s why they=E2=80= =99re=E2=80=A6 trying to kill him.=E2=80=9D It was then that Musk reprised his quip about the death of the vice president. =E2=80=9CI mentioned as a joke =E2=80=94 I meant it as a joke = =E2=80=94 that no one=E2=80=99s even bothering to try to kill Kamala,=E2=80=9D Musk said. =E2=80=9CBecause = there=E2=80=99s no point. There=E2=80=99s no point. [They=E2=80=99d] just get another puppet, = you know.=E2=80=9D The billionaire hastened to add: =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m not suggesting someone sh= ould try to kill her. It=E2=80=99s pointless! I=E2=80=99m just making an observation. Nobody= =E2=80=99s bothered. Why is that? Because it doesn=E2=80=99t matter. Yeah? Assassinating a puppet is pointless.=E2=80=9D This is at least the third time the world=E2=80=99s richest man =E2=80=94 w= hose billions significantly derive from his role as a government contractor =E2=80=94 has attempted to stick this =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D for a global audience. The f= irst time was on his X platform , where Musk has 200 million followers. Responding to someone who asked why do =E2=80=9Cthey want to kill Donald Trump?=E2=80=9D Musk wrote in Septembe= r: =E2=80=9CAnd no one is even trying to assassinate Biden/Kamala =F0=9F=A4=94.=E2=80=9D (Musk de= leted his post after backlash, writing: =E2=80=9COne lesson I=E2=80=99ve learned is that j= ust because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn=E2=80=99t mean it=E2=80=99s g= oing to be all that hilarious as a post on X.=E2=80=9D) Despite his words rousing the attention of the Secret Service, Musk later revived the assassination jest during a face-to-face interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who streams on X. =E2=80=9CI made a joke, which I realize I deleted, which was = like, nobody=E2=80=99s even bothering to try to kill Kamala, because it=E2=80=99s= pointless,=E2=80=9D said Musk. (Carlson deflected with a polite smile, saying =E2=80=9Ctotally = right=E2=80=9D before asking: =E2=80=9CYou actually put that up?=E2=80=9D) Saturday=E2=80=99s Harrisburg event at the megachurch had only a live audie= nce of a few hundred, but it streamed live on X to more than 1 million online viewers. After delivering his attempt at humor, Musk laughed wickedly and grinned for five seconds, before adding awkwardly: =E2=80=9CSo. Yeah.=E2=80= =9D The audience of Trumpy Musk stans gathered in this house of God finally gave the childish billionaire the reaction he thought the =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2= =80=9D deserved. They broke into a cheerful roar, as if they=E2=80=99d just seen a Space X r= ocket return to earth =E2=80=94 without blowing up. --000000000000e563e306250d32b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Elon Musk =E2=80=98Jokes=E2=80= =99 in a Church About Someone Killing Kamala Harris

Tim Dickinson October 21, 2024

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E= lon Musk=C2=A0keeps trying to stick his =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D a= bout somebody assassinating Vice President=C2=A0Kamala Harris. Over the weekend, Musk r= emarked, again, that =E2=80=9Cno one=E2=80=99s even bothering to try to kil= l Kamala=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 while he was speaking in a house of God.=C2=A0<= u>

Acting as a=C2=A0<= a href=3D"https://www.rollingstone.com/t/donald-trump/" target=3D"_blank"><= span style=3D"color:#416ed2;text-decoration:none">Donald Trump= =C2=A0surrogate =E2=80=94 in addition to the=C2=A0$75 million moneymanbehind a leading T= rump=C2=A0Super PAC=C2=A0=E2=80= =94 Musk spoke Saturday night at the=C2=A0Life = Centermegachurch in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which is notable f= or launching the career of Christian supremacist God-rocker=C2=A0Sean Feucht<= /a>.=C2=A0

The eve= nt=C2=A0made news=C2=A0for Mu= sk=E2=80=99s promised cash giveaway. He=E2=80=99s pledged a daily, $1 milli= on sweepstakes for registered swing-state voters who sign his Super PAC=E2= =80=99s petition about supporting the First and Second Amendments about fre= e speech and access to guns. =E2=80=9CThe Second Amendment,=E2=80=9D Musk i= nsisted, =E2=80=9Cis there to protect the First Amendment.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

But Musk also used = the pro-gun rally to attempt =E2=80=94 for at least the third time =E2=80= =94 to land his =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D about someone making an attempt on t= he life of Trump=E2=80=99s rival and the sitting vice president, Harris.=

Musk=E2=80=99s =E2= =80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D is steeped in a conspiracy theory that Washington is co= ntrolled by what he called =E2=80=9Cthe uniparty=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cthe m= achine,=E2=80=9D which he darkly =E2=80=94 and without evidence =E2=80=94 l= inks to the recent attempts on Trump=E2=80=99s life.

=E2=80=9CI just call it the machine, [th= e] big government machine,=E2=80=9D Musk told attendees of his church rally= . =E2=80=9CAnd when the Biden puppet was not working out, they got a new pu= ppet. But it=E2=80=99s still the same machine, obviously,=E2=80=9D he added= of Harris replacing President Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. Musk the= n alleged that returning Trump to the White House would be =E2=80=9Cthe thi= ng that scares the system=E2=80=9D because =E2=80=9CDonald Trump is not a p= uppet, he=E2=80=99s a real person,=E2=80=9D adding darkly: =E2=80=9CThat=E2= =80=99s why they=E2=80=99re=E2=80=A6 trying to kill him.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0<= /u>

It was then that Musk= reprised his quip about the death of the vice president. =E2=80=9CI mentio= ned as a joke =E2=80=94 I meant it as a joke =E2=80=94 that no one=E2=80=99= s even bothering to try to kill Kamala,=E2=80=9D Musk said. =E2=80=9CBecaus= e there=E2=80=99s no point. There=E2=80=99s no point. [They=E2=80=99d] just= get another puppet, you know.=E2=80=9D The billionaire hastened to add: = =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m not suggesting someone should try to kill her. It=E2= =80=99s pointless! I=E2=80=99m just making an observation. Nobody=E2=80=99s= bothered. Why is that? Because it doesn=E2=80=99t matter. Yeah? Assassinat= ing a puppet is pointless.=E2=80=9D

This is at least the third time the world=E2=80=99s riche= st man =E2=80=94 whose billions significantly derive from his role as a gov= ernment contractor =E2=80=94 has attempted to stick this =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2= =80=9D for a global audience. The first time was=C2=A0on his X platform, where Musk has 200 million f= ollowers. Responding to someone who asked why do =E2=80=9Cthey want to kill= Donald Trump?=E2=80=9D Musk wrote in September: =E2=80=9CAnd no one is eve= n trying to assassinate Biden/Kamala =F0=9F=A4=94.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 (Musk deleted his post after backlash, writing= : =E2=80=9COne lesson I=E2=80=99ve learned is that just because I say somet= hing to a group and they laugh doesn=E2=80=99t mean it=E2=80=99s going to b= e all that hilarious as a post on X.=E2=80=9D)

Despite his words rousing the=C2=A0attention=C2=A0of the = Secret Service, Musk later=C2=A0revived the assassination jest=C2=A0during a face-= to-face interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who streams on = X. =E2=80=9CI made a joke, which I realize I deleted, which was like, nobod= y=E2=80=99s even bothering to try to kill Kamala, because it=E2=80=99s poin= tless,=E2=80=9D said Musk. (Carlson deflected with a polite smile, saying = =E2=80=9Ctotally right=E2=80=9D before asking: =E2=80=9CYou actually put th= at up?=E2=80=9D)=C2=A0

Saturday=E2=80=99s Harrisburg event at the megachurch had only a live = audience of a few hundred, but it streamed live on X to more than 1 million= online viewers. After delivering his attempt at humor, Musk laughed wicked= ly and grinned for five seconds, before adding awkwardly: =E2=80=9CSo. Yeah= .=E2=80=9D

The aud= ience of Trumpy Musk stans gathered in this house of God finally gave the c= hildish billionaire the reaction he thought the =E2=80=9Cjoke=E2=80=9D dese= rved. They broke into a cheerful roar, as if they=E2=80=99d just seen a Spa= ce X rocket return to earth =E2=80=94 without blowing up.

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Subscribe here for more The Israeli-American Businessman Pitching a $200 Million Plan to Deploy Mercenaries to Gaza Moti Kahana says he's talking to the Israeli government about creating a pilot program for "gated communities" controlled by private U.S. security forces. Yaniv Cogan and Jeremy Scahill Oct 21 READ IN APP GDC founder Moti Kahana gives an interview to AFP in Jerusalem on February 18, 2016. Photo: MENAHEM KAHANA/AFP via Getty Images The Israeli government is actively considering a plan to deploy operatives from private U.S. logistics and security companies in the Gaza Strip under the auspices of delivering humanitarian aid, according to Israeli media reports. Israel=E2=80=99s security cabinet convened Sunday evening to discu= ss the proposal and is expected to approve a =E2=80=9Cpilot=E2=80=9D program and begin conducting test runs= in the next two months, according to Israeli media reports. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu =E2=80=9Cagreed to examine=E2=80=9D the plan last week, according to Haaretz. The media reports portray the plan as the brainchild of Israeli-American businessman Mordechai =E2=80=9CMoti=E2=80=9D Kahana, the CEO of Global Deli= very Company (GDC), who describes his for-profit business as =E2=80=9CUber for War Zones= .=E2=80=9D Kahana, a passionate supporter of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, has spent the past year aggressively trying to find a role for his company in Israel=E2=80=99s war on Gaza. Subscribe or upgrade now to support Drop Site News and get the next article straight to your inbox: Upgrade to paid Among Kahana=E2=80=99s goals is to create a =E2=80=9Cgated community=E2=80= =9D in Gaza where Palestinians would be subjected to biometric screenings in order to receive humanitarian aid. For months, there has been discussion in Israel of creating =E2=80=9Chumanitarian bubbles=E2=80=9D in northern Gaza where aid = could be distributed after Israeli forces declare Hamas fighters have been eliminated from the areas. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant has championed the idea. Rumors have been swirling in Israel about how this might be achieved and who might run the operations. =E2=80=9CGDC and its subcontractor have had extensive discussions with the = Israeli government including the Ministry of Defense, the Israeli Defense Forces, and the Prime Minister=E2=80=99s Office on the modalities for this initiati= ve,=E2=80=9D GDC said in a statement on Monday. The company asserted that =E2=80=9Cwell trai= ned private security is the only realistic way=E2=80=9D to deliver aid to Gaza = =E2=80=9Cas long as the nations are unwilling to put their troops on the ground in Gaza and UN peacekeepers are seen as ineffective.=E2=80=9D It added, =E2=80=9CPerson= nel working for our security sub-contractor are trained and equipped for non-lethal and lethal methods of crowd control. They are trained to use deadly force only as a last resort if their lives are in danger. IDF forces on the other hand are combat troops who lack the training, equipment and discipline to avoid deadly force unless absolutely necessary. Using combat soldiers for this mission is almost sure to lead to civilian casualties.=E2=80=9D GDC=E2=80=99s pilot proposal includes a plan to partner with Constellis=E2= =80=94a successor and parent company to what was once Blackwater, the infamous mercenary company founded by Erik Prince. Constellis maintains it has no ties to Prince. The company operates in Israel on a Pentagon contract to provide security for U.S. personnel working at a discreet radar facility in the Negev desert 30 miles from Gaza. The site was established to provide early warnings of Iranian ballistic missile attacks. Among Constellis=E2=80=99s subsidiaries is the mercenary company Triple Canopy, w= hich has long worked for the U.S. government and private companies in war and conflict zones across the globe. Constellis did not respond to a request for comment. While Kahana has been presented in Israeli media as generating the proposal for a private security force to deliver aid to Gaza, it is unclear if the Israeli government is actually considering his specific offer or exploring alternative private security contractors. A private U.S. security company would need approval from the State Department to offer armed services to a foreign entity or the Israeli government. In its statement Monday, GDC said it planned to follow up with the Israeli government and would =E2=80=9Cseek= to meet with the government of the United States, the United Nations and humanitarian organizations active in Gaza.=E2=80=9D The barrage of media reports stating the Israeli government is increasingly occupied with humanitarian aid distribution logistics comes at a time when Israeli policy on the ground demonstrates it remains unwavering in its commitment to wage a war of extermination against Palestinians in Gaza. The entire discussion of =E2=80=9Cday after=E2=80=9D plans for Gaza and the rum= ors and reports about proposals for private security may be a smokescreen. Whether Israel is seriously considering a plan to deploy a private force or not, it has made clear it intends to remain in Gaza indefinitely and has no plans to end its genocidal operations. *=E2=80=9CUber for War Zones=E2=80=9D* Kahana frequently posts on Twitter (X), expanding on his vision for a =E2=80=9Chumanitarian=E2=80=9D operation in Gaza in which eligibility to re= ceive humanitarian aid is conditioned on passing biometric tests to determine if one is a =E2=80=9Cterrorist.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CTerrorists will get a bullet= ,=E2=80=9D he vowed in one tweet. In response to questions from Drop Site News, Kahana added that it would be =E2=80=9Csimilar to Miami without [a] golf course and swim= ming pool.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CIt won=E2=80=99t be [a] ghetto,=E2=80=9D he wrote, = =E2=80=9Cthey can go in and out anytime but it will have the goal of safe and secure communities with local Palestinian leadership and government.=E2=80=9D GDC and company would be = =E2=80=9Cjust [providing] security.=E2=80=9D GDC has counted among its employees Stuart Seldowitz, the disgraced Obama administration official who was charged with a hate crime after harassing a halal food cart vendor. Kahana said Seldowitz was his =E2=80=9Chumanitarian diplomacy senior consultant.=E2=80=9D GDC reportedly cut ties with Seldowitz soon after the incident, but Kahana said he is open to Seldowitz working with GDC in Gaza. =E2=80=9CHe is still a friend,=E2=80= =9D Kahana told Drop Site. =E2=80=9CHe helped GDC to save over 5,000 Muslims in Afghanistan= , and he is welcome to do the same thing in Gaza with us.=E2=80=9D Kahana himself ha= s a record of incendiary statements, describing U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib as Hamas's =E2=80=9Cdesignated ambassador to the U.= S.=E2=80=9D and the underground tunnel system used by Al-Qassam Brigades in Gaza as the =E2= =80=9Csystem of the rat .=E2=80=9D Upgrade to paid GDC currently employs several former high-ranking Israeli officers=E2=80=94Brigadier General (res.) Yossi Kuperwasser, a member of th= e extremist Think Tank =E2=80=9CHaBitchonistim=E2=80=9D which has advised Net= anyahu since the outset of the genocide, and Lieutenant colonel Doron Avital, as well as former Chief Intelligence Officer David Tzur. GDC=E2=80=99s team also inclu= des recently retired U.S. Green Beret Col. Justin Sapp, a consultant for Constellis and a veteran of covert CIA paramilitary operations in Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. Its logistical director is former U.S. Navy officer Michael Durnan. On Monday, Kahana tweeted that GDC would start its Gaza project as soon as it received approval and added, =E2=80=9Cour team leader who will be runnin= g the Gaza [project] conquered [Mazar-i-Sharif] in Afghanistan after September 11.=E2=80=9D In a subsequent interview with YNet, Kahana said he was speaki= ng about Sapp, the former Green Beret. Kahana has boasted that his company has operated for 14 years in five wars: Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, and Gaza. =E2=80=9COur slogan is =E2=80= =98We Deliver,=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D he wrote on X in March. GDC, a for-profit business operating since at least 2019, grew out of Kahana=E2=80=99s previous New York-based nonprofit called Amali= ah. =E2=80=9CMy company is like a war-zone Uber/UPS for people and goods,=E2=80=9D Kahana s= aid in July 2023. =E2=80=9CI can be here on my farm [in New Jersey] directing a= n operation in the Middle East.=E2=80=9D Constellis is listed as an official partner on GDC=E2=80=99s site and GDC a= nd Constellis have worked together in Ukraine, according to The Jewish Chronicle and confirmed by Kahana to Drop Site News. While GDC moved sunflower oil out and diesel into the country, Constellis provided security services. Constellis is one of the largest private security companies in the world. It claims to have operated in more than 50 countries and has several divisions and subsidiaries. In 2022, its subsidiary Triple Canopy won a 10-year contract to provide security to the U.S. embassy in Iraq worth an estimated $1.3 billion. It also owns Olive Group, a British private security and training firm. In a recent tweet , Kahana shared a screenshot of a presentation dated May 30 describing the proposed pilot, which at the time was slated to begin in July and focus on Beit Hanoun. Constellis is named as a partner. Haaretz reporter Amos Harel, while not naming Constellis, said in a recent podcast interview that the company Israel was considering outsourcing the project to =E2=80=9Chad apparently worked with the Americans in Iraq.=E2=80=9D Kahana has describe= d the security force he would work with as =E2=80=9Cmade up of ex-combatants, vet= erans of elite units from the USA, England and France. The common denominator of all of them is that they are not Jewish.=E2=80=9D Kahana has been trying to get the Israeli government=E2=80=99s attention ba= ck in October 2023 he touted a plan to leverage humanitarian aid in order to secure the release of Israeli hostages. At the time, his plan was rejected by the Israeli government as =E2=80=9C[sounding] like Hamas propaganda stemming from the pressure they a= re under.=E2=80=9D In November 2023, Kahana joked about ethnically cleansing Gaza and moving its population to Jordan, and likened anti-genocide protesters in the US to =E2=80=9Cthe mice in the tunnels of G= aza.=E2=80=9D Referring to footage of a Palestinian child who arrived at Al-Shifa Hospital having survived an Israeli attack, covered in dust and blood and trembling uncontrollably, he wrote , =E2=80=9CNo worries. We are going to liberate him from Hamas.=E2=80=9D In March, NBC News reported the Israeli government was contemplating outsourcing aid truck escorts to a private U.S. contractor, stating Israeli officials indicated it has =E2=80=9Capproached several security companies already, but declined to spe= cify which ones.=E2=80=9D Kahana posted a link to the article on his Facebook profile, alongside the comment: =E2= =80=9CGDC does not get paid by the Israeli taxpayer =E2=9C=8C=EF=B8=8F=F0=9F=87=BA= =F0=9F=87=B8.=E2=80=9D In the recent interview with Ynet, Kahana claimed the U.S. will bankroll the project to the tune of $200 million for six months of operations. After the killing of seven World Central Kitchen workers in successive airstrikes by the Israeli military in April, Kahana complained that his plan to establish what he described as a secure corridor into Gaza was not being implemented. =E2=80=9CIsrael has had this plan on the table for more = than two months. We have had several meetings at the highest level to present the plan and go over the ideas. The army was in favor and we have been waiting for the green light, but when we asked if we could go ahead, the Prime Minister=E2=80=99s Office asked, =E2=80=98What=E2=80=99s the rush?=E2=80=99= =E2=80=9D he said . Kahana claimed his proposal =E2=80=9Cwas presented to high level officials = of the White House, State Department and Department of Defense. We did not receive a response to our request for a meeting to discuss and explain the plan.=E2= =80=9D By May, media reports indicated the Israeli government was engaged in talks with a private American security company, said to employ former soldiers from elite military units, with the aim of handing the company responsibility for managing the Rafah crossing. Kahana posted the report on his personal Facebook account, writing: =E2=80=9CNo comments = =F0=9F=98=8E.=E2=80=9D A few days later he followed up with an announcement: =E2=80=9CI am finally able to share that I will be as= sisting with humanitarian supplies for civilians in #Gaza. After 14 years and 5 wars, I am now in my homeland =F0=9F=87=AE=F0=9F=87=B1. My company has been= approved to provide logistics within Gaza. Hamas, be aware that none of our supplies will be stolen by you! This is my first and final warning. =F0=9F=98=8E=E2=80=9D In August, the idea of the Israeli military outsourcing the occupation of Gaza to private American companies was once again floated, this time around in relation to the Netzarim corridor, which bisects the Strip. GDC was name= d as the firm the Israeli government was considering for the job. On his Facebook page Kahana proclaimed: =E2=80=9CWe are on our way to =F0=9F=87=AE= =F0=9F=87=B1 Netzarim Corridor =F0=9F=87=BA=F0=9F=87=B8 =F0=9F=98=8E.=E2=80=9D In the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government dramatically expanded its use of private security companies to service its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Often portrayed as engaging in humanitarian operations, private security companies offer hired guns to both governments and the private sector. The U.S. has used them in CIA and military operations and to guard American and foreign diplomats and dignitaries. Blackwater entered Iraq in 2003 under the auspices of guarding humanitarian convoys and providing security for corporations. The company was then hired to guard senior U.S. occupation officials. In September 2007, Blackwater operatives gunned down 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad=E2=80=99s Nisour Squar= e, a massacre which drew global public attention to the burgeoning and secretive world of private military contracting. Private forces are not subject to the military justice system and do not fall under a military chain of command. Part of the pitch for Israel to use private contractors in Gaza would be to argue they do not constitute an official Israeli occupation force. It also offers Israel the option of using retired soldiers from the U.S. and other nations to do its bidding in Gaza. Kahana has also claimed he was =E2=80=9Cinvolved=E2=80=9D with a pitch developed by Erik Prince early in the Gaza war to assist the IDF in flooding underground tunnels in Gaza with sea water, which scientists warne= d would render the Strip =E2=80=9Cunlivable for up to 100 years.=E2=80=9D Pri= nce =E2=80=9Casked me to talk to Israelis about the tunnel situation and his idea,=E2=80=9D Kahana t= old Drop Site, =E2=80=9Cbut the Israelis had no interest to do so.=E2=80=9D Kahana has repeatedly called Prince =E2=80=9Ca good friend=E2=80=9D and stated =E2=80=9Cwe definitely share the same security views and our [love] for =F0=9F=87=BA=F0=9F=87=B8=F0=9F=87=AE=F0=9F=87=B1=F0=9F=8C=8D.=E2=80=9D When= it comes to U.S. politics, however, Prince is a close ally of Donald Trump, Kahana has been outspoken in his enthusiasm for Kamala Harris=E2=80=99s candidacy for president. It=E2=80=99s about time f= or a woman to run the world,=E2=80=9D he wrote in a Facebook post in July accompanied by = a picture of Harris. =E2=80=9CPolitically we are 180, I am a Democrat,=E2=80= =9D Kahana told Drop Site. But, he added, =E2=80=9CI did buy 9 cows from his wife.=E2=80=9D Leave a comment A guest post by Yaniv Cogan Yaniv Cogan is a writer based in Tel Aviv. He recently contributed to the book, DELUGE: Gaza and Israel from Crisis to Cataclysm, published by OR Books. https://orbooks.com/catalog/deluge/ --000000000000e937a006250dad9f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



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The Israeli government is actively considering a plan to deploy operatives=20 from private U.S. logistics and security companies in the Gaza Strip=20 under the auspices of delivering humanitarian aid, according to Israeli=20 media reports. Israel=E2=80=99s security cabinet convened Sunday evening to= =20 discuss the proposal and is expected to approve a =E2=80=9Cpilot=E2=80=9D program and begin conducting test run= s in the next two months, according to Israeli media reports. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu =E2=80=9Cagreed to examine=E2=80=9D the plan last week, acc= ording to Haaretz.

The media reports portray the plan as the brainchild of Israeli-American=20 businessman Mordechai =E2=80=9CMoti=E2=80=9D Kahana, the CEO of Global Deli= very Company=20 (GDC), who describes his for-profit business as =E2=80=9CUber for War Zones= .=E2=80=9D=20 Kahana, a passionate supporter of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, has spent the past year aggressively trying to find a role for his company in=20 Israel=E2=80=99s war on Gaza.

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=E2=80=9CG= DC and its subcontractor have had extensive discussions with the Israeli=20 government including the Ministry of Defense, the Israeli Defense=20 Forces, and the Prime Minister=E2=80=99s Office on the modalities for this= =20 initiative,=E2=80=9D GDC said in a statement on Monday. The company asserte= d=20 that =E2=80=9Cwell trained private security is the only realistic way=E2=80= =9D to=20 deliver aid to Gaza =E2=80=9Cas long as the nations are unwilling to put th= eir=20 troops on the ground in Gaza and UN peacekeepers are seen as=20 ineffective.=E2=80=9D It added, =E2=80=9CPersonnel working for our security= =20 sub-contractor are trained and equipped for non-lethal and lethal=20 methods of crowd control. They are trained to use deadly force only as a last resort if their lives are in danger. IDF forces on the other hand=20 are combat troops who lack the training, equipment and discipline to=20 avoid deadly force unless absolutely necessary. Using combat soldiers=20 for this mission is almost sure to lead to civilian casualties.=E2=80=9D=C2= =A0

GDC=E2=80=99s pilot proposal includes a plan to partner with Constellis=E2=80=94a succes= sor=20 and parent company to what was once Blackwater, the infamous mercenary=20 company founded by Erik Prince. Constellis maintains it has no ties to=20 Prince. The company operates in Israel on a Pentagon contract to provide security for U.S. personnel working=20 at a discreet radar facility in the Negev desert 30 miles from Gaza. The site was established to provide early warnings of Iranian ballistic missile attacks. Among=20 Constellis=E2=80=99s subsidiaries is the mercenary company Triple Canopy, w= hich=20 has long worked for the U.S. government and private companies in war and conflict zones across the globe. Constellis did not respond to a=20 request for comment.=C2=A0

While Kahana has been presented in Israeli media as generating the proposal=20 for a private security force to deliver aid to Gaza, it is unclear if=20 the Israeli government is actually considering his specific offer or=20 exploring alternative private security contractors. A private U.S.=20 security company would need approval from the State Department to offer=20 armed services to a foreign entity or the Israeli government. In its=20 statement Monday, GDC said it planned to follow up with the Israeli=20 government and would =E2=80=9Cseek to meet with the government of the Unite= d=20 States, the United Nations and humanitarian organizations active in=20 Gaza.=E2=80=9D

The barrage of media reports stating the Israeli government is increasingly occupied with humanitarian aid distribution logistics comes at a time=20 when Israeli policy on the ground demonstrates it remains unwavering in=20 its commitment to wage a war of extermination against Palestinians in=20 Gaza. The entire discussion of =E2=80=9Cday after=E2=80=9D plans for Gaza a= nd the rumors and reports about proposals for private security may be a smokescreen.=20 Whether Israel is seriously considering a plan to deploy a private force or not, it has made clear it intends to remain in Gaza indefinitely and has no plans to end its genocidal operations.

=E2=80=9CUber for War Zones=E2=80=9D=

Kahana frequently posts on Twitter (X), expanding on his vision for a=20 =E2=80=9Chumanitarian=E2=80=9D operation in Gaza in which eligibility to re= ceive=20 humanitarian aid is conditioned on passing biometric tests to determine=20 if one is a =E2=80=9Cterrorist.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CTerrorists will get a bul= let,=E2=80=9D he vowed in one tweet. In response to questions from Drop Site News, Kahana=20 added that it would be =E2=80=9Csimilar to Miami without [a] golf course an= d=20 swimming pool.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CIt won=E2=80=99t be [a] ghetto,=E2=80=9D h= e wrote, =E2=80=9Cthey can go in and=20 out anytime but it will have the goal of safe and secure communities=20 with local Palestinian leadership and government.=E2=80=9D GDC and company = would be =E2=80=9Cjust [providing] security.=E2=80=9D

= GDC has counted among its employees Stuart Seldowitz, the disgraced Obama=20 administration official who was charged with a hate crime after=20 harassing a halal food cart vendor. Kahana said Seldowitz was his=20 =E2=80=9Chumanitarian diplomacy senior consultant.=E2=80=9D GDC report= edly cut ties with Seldowitz soon after the incident, but Kahana said he is=20 open to Seldowitz working with GDC in Gaza. =E2=80=9CHe is still a friend,= =E2=80=9D=20 Kahana told Drop Site. =E2=80=9CHe helped GDC to save over 5,000 Muslims in= =20 Afghanistan, and he is welcome to do the same thing in Gaza with us.=E2=80= =9D=20 Kahana himself has a record of incendiary statements, describing U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib as Hamas's =E2=80=9Cdesignated ambassador to t= he U.S.=E2=80=9D=20 and the underground tunnel system used by Al-Qassam Brigades in Gaza as=20 the =E2=80=9Csystem of the rat.=E2=80=9D

GDC currently employs several former high-ranking Israeli=20 officers=E2=80=94Brigadier General (res.) Yossi Kuperwasser, a member of th= e=20 extremist Think Tank =E2=80=9CHaBitchonistim=E2=80=9D which has advised Net= anyahu since=20 the outset of the genocide, and Lieutenant colonel Doron Avital, as well as former Chief Intelligence Officer David Tzur. GDC=E2=80=99s team also= =20 includes recently retired U.S. Green Beret Col. Justin Sapp, a consul= tant for Constellis and a veteran of covert CIA paramilitary operations in=20 Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. Its logistical director is former=20 U.S. Navy officer Michael Durnan.=C2=A0

On Monday, Kahana tweeted that GDC would start its Gaza project as soon as it received approval and added, =E2=80=9Cour team leader who will be runni= ng=20 the Gaza [project] conquered [Mazar-i-Sharif] in Afghanistan after=20 September 11.=E2=80=9D In a subsequent interview with YNet, Kahana said he = was=20 speaking about Sapp, the former Green Beret.

Kahana has boasted that his company has operated for 14 years in five wars:=20 Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, and Gaza. =E2=80=9COur slogan is =E2=80= =98We=20 Deliver,=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D he wrote on X in March. GDC, a for-profit business operating since at least=20 2019, grew out of Kahana=E2=80=99s previous New York-based nonprofit called= =20 Amaliah. =E2=80=9CMy company is like a war-zone Uber/UPS for people and goo= ds,=E2=80=9D=20 Kahana said in July 2023. =E2=80=9CI can be here on my farm = [in New Jersey] directing an operation in the Middle East.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

Constellis is listed as an official partner on GDC= =E2=80=99s site and GDC and Constellis have worked together in Ukraine, according to The Jewish Chronicle and confirmed by Kahana to Drop Site News. While GDC moved sunflower=20 oil out and diesel into the country, Constellis provided security=20 services. Constellis is one of the largest private security companies in the world. It claims to have operated in more than 50 countries and has several divisions and subsidiaries. In 2022, its subsidiary Triple=20 Canopy won a 10-year contract to provide security to the U.S. embassy in Iraq worth an estimated $1.3 billion. It also owns Olive Group, a=20 British private security and training firm.

In a = recent tweet, Kahana shared a screenshot of a presentation dated May 30 describing=20 the proposed pilot, which at the time was slated to begin in July and=20 focus on Beit Hanoun. Constellis is named as a partner. Haaretz reporter Amos Harel, while not naming Constellis, said in a recent podcast i= nterview that the company Israel was considering outsourcing the project to =E2=80=9Chad= =20 apparently worked with the Americans in Iraq.=E2=80=9D =C2=A0Kahana has des= cribed the security force he would work with as =E2=80=9Cmade up of ex-combatants,=20 veterans of elite units from the USA, England and France. The common=20 denominator of all of them is that they are not Jewish.=E2=80=9D

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Kahana has been trying to get the Israeli government=E2=80= =99s attention back in October 2023 he touted a plan to leverage humanitarian aid in order to secure the release of Israeli=20 hostages. At the time, his plan was rejected by the Israeli government=20 as =E2=80=9C[sounding] like Hamas propaganda stemming from the pressure the= y are under.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

In November 2023, Kahana <= /span>joked about ethnically cleansing Gaza and moving its populati= on to Jordan, and likened anti-genocide protesters in the US to =E2=80=9Cthe mice in the tunnels of= =20 Gaza.=E2=80=9D Referring to footage of a Palestinian child who arrived at= =20 Al-Shifa Hospital having survived an Israeli attack, covered in dust and blood and trembling uncontrollably, he wrote= , =E2=80=9CNo worries. We are going to liberate him from Hamas.=E2=80=9D=C2= =A0

In March, NBC News reported the Israeli government was contemplating outsourcing aid truck escorts=20 to a private U.S. contractor, stating Israeli officials indicated it has =E2=80=9Capproached several security companies already, but declined to sp= ecify which ones.=E2=80=9D Kahana posted a link to the article on= his Facebook profile, alongside the comment: =E2=80=9CGDC does not get pai= d by the Israeli=C2=A0 taxpayer =E2=9C=8C=EF=B8=8F=F0=9F=87=BA=F0=9F=87=B8.= =E2=80=9D In the recent interview with Ynet, Kahana claimed = the U.S. will bankroll the project to the tune of $200 million for six mont= hs of operations.

After the killing of seven World Central Kitchen workers in successive=20 airstrikes by the Israeli military in April, Kahana complained that his=20 plan to establish what he described as a secure corridor into Gaza was=20 not being implemented. =E2=80=9CIsrael has had this plan on the table for m= ore=20 than two months. We have had several meetings at the highest level to=20 present the plan and go over the ideas. The army was in favor and we=20 have been waiting for the green light, but when we asked if we could go=20 ahead, the Prime Minister=E2=80=99s Office asked, =E2=80=98What=E2=80=99s t= he rush?=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D he said. Kahana claimed his proposal =E2=80=9Cwas presented to high level officials= of=20 the White House, State Department and Department of Defense. We did not=20 receive a response to our request for a meeting to discuss and explain=20 the plan.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

By May, media rep= orts indicated the Israeli government was engaged in talks with a private=20 American security company, said to employ former soldiers from elite=20 military units, with the aim of handing the company responsibility for=20 managing the Rafah crossing. Kahana posted the report on his= personal Facebook account, writing: =E2=80=9CNo comments =F0=9F=98=8E.=E2= =80=9D A few days later he followed up with an announcement: =E2=80=9CI am finally able to share that I will be= =20 assisting with humanitarian supplies for civilians in #Gaza. After 14=20 years and 5 wars, I am now in my homeland =F0=9F=87=AE=F0=9F=87=B1. My company has been approved to provide logistics within Gaza. Hamas,=20 be aware that none of our supplies will be stolen by you! This is my=20 first and final warning. =F0=9F=98=8E=E2=80=9D

In August, the idea of the Israeli military outsourcing the occupation of=20 Gaza to private American companies was once again floated, this time=20 around in relation to the Netzarim corridor, which bisects the Strip.=20 GDC was named as the firm the Israeli government was conside= ring for the job. On his Facebook page Kahana proclaimed: =E2=80=9CWe are o= n our way to =F0=9F=87=AE=F0=9F=87=B1 Netzarim Corridor =F0=9F=87=BA=F0=9F= =87=B8 =F0=9F=98=8E.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

In the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government dramatically expanded its=20 use of private security companies to service its wars in Iraq and=20 Afghanistan. Often portrayed as engaging in humanitarian operations,=20 private security companies offer hired guns to both governments and the=20 private sector. The U.S. has used them in CIA and military operations=20 and to guard American and foreign diplomats and dignitaries.=C2=A0

Blackwater entered Iraq in 2003 under the auspices of guarding humanitarian=20 convoys and providing security for corporations. The company was then=20 hired to guard senior U.S. occupation officials. In September 2007,=20 Blackwater operatives gunned down 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad=E2=80=99s N= isour Square, a massacre which drew global public attention to the burgeoning and secretive world of private military contracting. Private forces are not subject to the military justice system and do not fall under a=20 military chain of command. Part of the pitch for Israel to use private=20 contractors in Gaza would be to argue they do not constitute an official Israeli occupation force. It also offers Israel the option of using=20 retired soldiers from the U.S. and other nations to do its bidding in=20 Gaza.

Kahana has also claimed he was =E2= =80=9Cinvolved=E2=80=9D with a pitch developed by Erik Prince early in the Gaza war to assist the IDF in=20 flooding underground tunnels in Gaza with sea water, which scientists = warned would render the Strip =E2=80=9Cunlivable for up to 100 years.=E2=80=9D Pr= ince =E2=80=9Casked=20 me to talk to Israelis about the tunnel situation and his idea,=E2=80=9D Ka= hana=20 told Drop Site, =E2=80=9Cbut the Israelis had no interest to do so.=E2=80= =9D=C2=A0

Kahana has repeatedly ca= lled Prince =E2=80=9Ca good friend=E2=80=9D and stated =E2= =80=9Cwe definitely share the same security views and our [love] for =F0=9F= =87=BA=F0=9F=87=B8=F0=9F=87=AE=F0=9F=87=B1=F0=9F=8C=8D.=E2=80=9D When it comes to U.S. politics, however, Prince is a close ally of=20 Donald Trump, Kahana has been outspoken in his enthusiasm for Kamala=20 Harris=E2=80=99s candidacy for president.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s about time for= a woman to run=20 the world,=E2=80=9D he wrote in a Facebook post in July accompanied by a pi= cture of Harris. =E2=80=9CPolitically we are 180, I am a Democrat,=E2=80=9D Kaha= na told Drop=20 Site. But, he added, =E2=80=9CI did buy 9 cows from his wife.=E2=80=9D

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Yaniv Cogan is a writer based in Tel Aviv. He recently contributed to the=20 book, DELUGE: Gaza and Israel from Crisis to Cataclysm, published by OR=20 Books. https://o= rbooks.com/catalog/deluge/
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Kamala Harris speaking in Washington Crossing, Pennsylvania, on October 16, 2024. (Ryan Collerd / AFP via Getty Images) On Monday, Kamala Harris and the Democratic National Committee started running a new attack ad in Pennsylvania. That=E2=80=99s not noteworthy in itself. Early voting has = already started, and the Keystone State has emerged as the election=E2=80=99s most = hotly contested battleground. Both sides are hurling plenty of attack ads. But surprisingly, this ad isn=E2=80=99t directed against Republican nominee= Donald Trump. It=E2=80=99s aimed at the Green Party=E2=80=99s Jill Stein, who=E2= =80=99s currently polling around 1 percent. The ad shows Stein morphing into Trump while a voice-over warns that =E2=80=9Ca vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.=E2=80=9D Neither the Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton campaigns ran attack ads against Stein, even though her campaigns in 2012 and 2016 drew comparable support. Nor did Joe Biden bother attacking Green Party nominee Howie Hawkins in 2020. Harris=E2=80=99s unprecedented move is hard to interpret a= s anything but a sign of desperation, especially in the context of other developments in the campaign. Harris seems to be adopting a gimmicky new strategy every day, from embraci= ng cryptocurrency to announcing that as president she=E2=80=99ll run all policy through a bip= artisan council of advisors. She=E2=80=99s throwing everything against the wall, hoping that something, anything, will put her over the edge. There=E2=80=99s one tactic Harris doesn=E2=80=99t seem keen to try, though.= She won=E2=80=99t embrace the kind of antiwar sentiment and economic populism that might appeal to many currently unenthusiastic voters, but which would infuriate the Democratic establishment and the donor class. Do Stein Voters Just Need One More Scolding? In a sufficiently tight election, it=E2=80=99s true that the Stein vote in Pennsylvania might exceed a Trump margin of victory. But anyone voting for Stein in a swing state is almost certainly aware of this possibility. In all likelihood, they=E2=80=99ve already been scolded about it repeatedly by= liberal acquaintances. The average Stein voter is very conscious of the =E2=80=9Csp= oiler effect=E2=80=9D and chooses to vote third party anyway. Like it or not, the= y=E2=80=99ve taken it into account and made their decision. If the Democrats wanted to diminish this problem going forward, they could choose to put their energies into promoting reforms like ranked-choice voting, allowing voters who want to build up third-party alternatives to the existing choices while also preventing the victory of the greater evil to do both. This would probably be a more effective solution than shaming the hardest core of dissident voters who, judging by the polls, are the only people planning to vote for Stein. Failing that, if the Harris campaign wants to appeal to those voters =E2=80= =94 and, better yet, appeal to a vastly larger number of disenchanted Democrats to increase enthusiasm and turnout =E2=80=94 they could engage in actual subst= antive political persuasion. For example, Harris could pledge to end the flow of US arms going to Benjamin Netanyahu=E2=80=99s genocidal war in Gaza. This is the issue that = most incenses many voters who might otherwise pull the lever for a Democrat as a matter of course. It wouldn=E2=80=99t be hard for Harris to justify this ch= ange in position. She could say that, as she saw the Israel Defense Forces literally burn patients alive in a hospital last weekend, or when she saw Netanyahu publicly mull sealing off all humanitarian aid to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to =E2=80=9Cs= tarve out=E2=80=9D Hamas fighters, she realized that her conscience would no long= er allow her to support the war. To be even more persuasive, she could fold this into a broader agenda for domestic reform. Right now, the United States devotes an obscene share of its resources to maintaining a globe-spanning imperial military force, complete with hundreds of army bases across the planet and a large enough weapons industry to sustain simultaneous proxy wars in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. At the same time, we maintain a tiny and miserly social welfare state. Diabetics die because their GoFundMes don=E2=80=99t raise enough to cover their insulin, and people stay in bad j= obs or bad marriages to hold onto their health insurance. Low-wage workers in industries like fast food are often told that if they want to make a living wage they should go back to school and get a college degree, but college is so astronomically expensive that taking this advice could lead to inescapable debt. A genuinely populist policy agenda would tie together the two halves of this picture, pledging to slash the military-industrial complex down to size to free up funding for a variety of initiatives to substantially improve the lives of working-class Americans. When Biden ended his candidacy in July, grassroots Democrats were ecstatic. With Biden=E2=80=99s cognitive decline no longer an issue, they thought, th= ey were sure to beat Trump. But this was far too hasty . Trump and J. D. Vance were leaning into an ugly and shallow pseudo-populism. Being able to string sentences together has not been enough to suppress the GOP; the content of those sentences matters, too. Harris=E2=80=99s words may be coherent, but they=E2=80=99re devoid of polit= ical vision. It=E2=80=99s a missed opportunity that=E2=80=99s likely hurting her in the = polls. The Road to Nowhere There was a time when Senator Harris was a cosponsor of Bernie Sanders=E2= =80=99s Medicare for All bill. Instead of dusting off that position and fighting for it this year, though, she quietly backed away from it as well as a variety of similar past stances =E2=80=94 on the Green New Deal resolution = she=E2=80=99d once cosponsored, for example, which would have included =E2=80=9Cguarantee= ing a job at a family-sustaining wage=E2=80=9D for every American who wanted one. It seems now that Harris was merely trying on a progressive costume to see what it did for her political career. However insincere, she could have put it on again for this election, possibly to great effect. Instead, she=E2=80= =99s leaning *away *from politics as such, trying to seem blandly palatable enough to absorb whatever anti-Trump sentiment exists and squeak through in November. Harris=E2=80=99s choice to tap Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running m= ate seemed to point in a promising direction. Walz has a solid record of social democratic policy accomplishments in his home state, and he=E2=80=99= s an effective speaker. But judging by the amount of attention the Harris campaign gives both figures, a voter only half paying attention in the last month could be forgiven for assuming that Harris=E2=80=99s running mate was never-Trump Republican Liz Cheney. In a moment of political lucidity in August, Harris pledged to go after corporate price-gouging, a deeply popular promise in a time of widespread frustration with unaffordable prices. Unfortunately, her campaign has since de-emphasized the idea. Much of her energy has gone instead into =E2=80=9Ccountry over party =E2=80=9D appeals to an elusive category of partisan Republicans who, nine years after Trump started his first campaign for president, might be convinced to turn against him in the fall of 2024. Since it was revealed that Dick Cheney will be voting for Harris, Harris surrogates keep cheerfully invoking =E2=80= =9CBernie Sanders and Dick Cheney=E2=80=9D to show what a broad coalition supports th= em. But beyond making those of us who value Bernie=E2=80=99s legacy throw up in our= mouths a little every time we hear his name paired with one of the most notorious war criminals of the twenty-first century, all this does is feed into the Trump narrative that he=E2=80=99s battling a unified establishment. The election is close enough that Harris could still stumble and flail across the finish line in November and become president in January. Stranger things have happened. Right now, though, the picture is bleak. The poll aggregator FiveThirtyEight, for example, has Harris beating Trump by about six-tenths of 1 percent in Pennsylvania and enjoying similarly razor-thin margins in other swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin. Other sources even have Trump a bit ahead. Given that the former president outperformed the polls both of the previous times he ran, this surely isn=E2=80=99t where Harris hoped = to be in October. Meanwhile, her campaign is a menagerie of niche and apolitical ideas that evoke novelty without threatening anyone in power, like voicing support for cryptocurrency and the weed industry. It=E2=80=99s a strange and empty kind= of politics that=E2=80=99s almost not politics at all, so deep is her unwillin= gness to stake out any political territory that might make her enemies in high places. Maybe sheer dumb luck will carry Harris to a narrow victory this November. But don=E2=80=99t be surprised if =E2=80=9Ccountry over party=E2=80=9D fall= s flat =E2=80=94 in which case, we=E2=80=99ll all get a chance to find out what happens to the country under four more years of Donald Trump. Contributors Ben Burgis is a Jacobin columnist, an adjunct philosophy professor at Rutgers University, and the host of the YouTube show and podcast Give Them An Argument. He=E2=80=99s the author of several books, most recently Christ= opher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He Still Matters. --0000000000001637b806250dc43e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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With Kamala Harris=E2=80=99s campaig= n struggling=20 to extinguish the possibility of another Trump presidency, she seems=20 willing to try everything =E2=80=94 except for a clear political vision tha= t=20 folds together broad antiwar sentiment and economic populism.

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On Monday, Kamala Harris and the Democratic Nation= al Committee started running a new attack ad in Pennsylvania. That=E2=80=99s not noteworthy in itself. Early voting has= =20 already started, and the Keystone State has emerged as the election=E2=80= =99s=20 most hotly contested battleground. Both sides are hurling plenty of=20 attack ads.

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But surprisingly, this ad isn=E2=80=99t directed against Republican nominee Donald Trump. It=E2=80=99s aimed at the Green Party=E2=80=99s Jill= Stein, who=E2=80=99s currently polling around 1 per= cent. The ad shows Stein morphing into Trump while a voice-over warns that = =E2=80=9Ca vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.=E2=80=9D

Neither the Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton campaigns ran attack ads against Stein, even though her campaigns in 2012 and 2016 drew=20 comparable support. Nor did Joe Biden bother attacking Green Party=20 nominee Howie Hawkins in 2020. Harris=E2=80=99s unprecedented move is hard = to=20 interpret as anything but a sign of desperation, especially in the=20 context of other developments in the campaign.

Harris seems to be adopting a gimmicky new strategy every day, from embracing cry= ptocurrency to announcing that as president she=E2=80=99ll run all poli= cy through a bipartisan council of advisors. She=E2=80=99s throwing every= thing against the wall, hoping that something, anything, will put her over = the edge.

There=E2=80=99s one tactic Harris doesn=E2=80=99t seem keen to try, thou= gh. She won=E2=80=99t embrace the kind of antiwar sentiment and economic populism that might=20 appeal to many currently unenthusiastic voters, but which would=20 infuriate the Democratic establishment and the donor class.

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Do St= ein Voters Just Need One More Scolding?

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In a sufficiently tight election, it=E2=80=99s true that the= =20 Stein vote in Pennsylvania might exceed a Trump margin of victory. But=20 anyone voting for Stein in a swing state is almost certainly aware of=20 this possibility. In all likelihood, they=E2=80=99ve already been scolded a= bout=20 it repeatedly by liberal acquaintances. The average Stein voter is very=20 conscious of the =E2=80=9Cspoiler effect=E2=80=9D and chooses to vote third= party=20 anyway. Like it or not, they=E2=80=99ve taken it into account and made thei= r=20 decision.

If the Democrats wanted to diminish this problem going forward, they=20 could choose to put their energies into promoting reforms like=20 ranked-choice voting, allowing voters who want to build up third-party=20 alternatives to the existing choices while also preventing the victory=20 of the greater evil to do both. This would probably be a more effective=20 solution than shaming the hardest core of dissident voters who, judging=20 by the polls, are the only people planning to vote for Stein.

Failing that, if the Harris campaign wants to appeal to those voters =E2= =80=94 and, better yet, appeal to a vastly larger number of disenchanted=20 Democrats to increase enthusiasm and turnout =E2=80=94 they could engage in= =20 actual substantive political persuasion.

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For example, Harris could pledge to end the flow of US arms going to Benjamin Netanyahu=E2=80=99s genocidal war in Gaza. This is the i= ssue=20 that most incenses many voters who might otherwise pull the lever for a=20 Democrat as a matter of course. It wouldn=E2=80=99t be hard for Harris to= =20 justify this change in position. She could say that, as she saw the=20 Israel Defense Forces literally burn patients alive in a hospital last weekend, = or when she saw Netanyahu publicly mull sealing off all humanitarian aid to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to=20 =E2=80=9Cstarve out=E2=80=9D Hamas fighters, she realized that her conscien= ce would no=20 longer allow her to support the war.

To be even more persuasive, she could fold this into a broader agenda for domestic reform. Right now, the United States devotes an obscene=20 share of its resources to maintaining a globe-spanning imperial military force, complete with hundreds of army bases across the planet and a=20 large enough weapons industry to sustain simultaneous proxy wars in=20 Eastern Europe and the Middle East. At the same time, we maintain a tiny and miserly social welfare state. Diabetics die because their GoFundMes don=E2=80=99t raise enough to cover their insulin, and people stay in bad = jobs=20 or bad marriages to hold onto their health insurance. Low-wage workers=20 in industries like fast food are often told that if they want to make a=20 living wage they should go back to school and get a college degree, but=20 college is so astronomically expensive that taking this advice could=20 lead to inescapable debt.

A genuinely populist policy agenda would tie together the two halves=20 of this picture, pledging to slash the military-industrial complex down=20 to size to free up funding for a variety of initiatives to substantially improve the lives of working-class Americans.

When Biden ended his candidacy in July, grassroots Democrats were=20 ecstatic. With Biden=E2=80=99s cognitive decline no longer an issue, they= =20 thought, they were sure to beat Trump. But this was fa= r too hasty. Trump and J. D. Vance were leaning into an ugly and shallow=20 pseudo-populism. Being able to string sentences together has not been=20 enough to suppress the GOP; the content of those sentences matters, too. Harris=E2=80=99s words may be coherent, but they=E2=80=99re devoid of poli= tical vision. It=E2=80=99s a missed opportunity that=E2=80=99s likely hurting her in the= polls.

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The R= oad to Nowhere

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There was a time when Senator Harris was a cosponsor of=20 Bernie Sanders=E2=80=99s Medicare for All bill. Instead of dusting off that= =20 position and fighting for it this year, though, she quietly backed away=20 from it as well as a variety of similar past stances =E2=80=94 on the Green= New=20 Deal resolution she=E2=80=99d once cosponsored, for example, which would ha= ve=20 included =E2=80=9Cguaranteeing a job at a family-sustaining wage=E2=80=9D f= or every=20 American who wanted one.

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It seems now that Harris was merely trying on a progressive costume to see what it did for her political career. However insincere, she could have put it on again for this election, possibly to great=20 effect. Instead, she=E2=80=99s leaning away from politics as such,= =20 trying to seem blandly palatable enough to absorb whatever anti-Trump=20 sentiment exists and squeak through in November.

Harris=E2=80=99s choice to tap Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her runnin= g mate seemed to point in a promising direction. Walz has a solid record= of social democratic policy accomplishments in his home state, and he=E2= =80=99s an effective speaker. But judging by the amount of attention the Harris campaign gives both figures, a voter only half paying attention in the=20 last month could be forgiven for assuming that Harris=E2=80=99s running mat= e was never-Trump Republican Liz Cheney.

In a moment of political lucidity in August, Harris pledged to go after corporate price-gouging, a deeply popular promise in a time of widespread frustration with unaffordable prices. Unfortunately, her=20 campaign has since de-emphasized the idea. Much of her energy has gone=20 instead into =E2=80=9Ccountry over p= arty=E2=80=9D appeals to an elusive category of partisan Republicans who, nine years=20 after Trump started his first campaign for president, might be convinced to turn against him in the fall of 2024.

Since it was revealed that Dick Cheney will be voting for Harris, Harris surroga= tes keep cheerfully invoking =E2=80=9CBernie Sanders and Dick Cheney=E2=80=9D to show what a broad coal= ition=20 supports them. But beyond making those of us who value Bernie=E2=80=99s leg= acy=20 throw up in our mouths a little every time we hear his name paired with=20 one of the most notorious war criminals of the twenty-first century, all this does is feed into the Trump narrative that he=E2=80=99s battling a un= ified establishment.

The election is close enough that Harris could still stumble and=20 flail across the finish line in November and become president in=20 January. Stranger things have happened. Right now, though, the picture=20 is bleak. The poll aggregator FiveThirtyEight, for example, has Harris=20 beating Trump by about six-tenths of 1 percent in Pennsylvania and enjoying similarly razor-thin margins in other=20 swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin. Other sources even have Trump a bit ahead. Given that the former president outperformed the polls = both of the previous times he ran, this surely isn=E2=80=99t where Harris h= oped to be in October.

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Meanwhile, her campaign is a menagerie of niche and=20 apolitical ideas that evoke novelty without threatening anyone in power, like voicing support for cryptocurrency and the weed industry. It=E2=80=99= s a=20 strange and empty kind of politics that=E2=80=99s almost not politics at al= l, so deep is her unwillingness to stake out any political territory that=20 might make her enemies in high places.

Maybe sheer dumb luck will carry Harris to a narrow victory this=20 November. But don=E2=80=99t be surprised if =E2=80=9Ccountry over party=E2= =80=9D falls flat =E2=80=94 in which case, we=E2=80=99ll all get a chance to find out what happens<= /a> to the country under four more years of Donald Trump.

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Ben Burgis is a Jacobin c= olumnist, an adjunct philosophy professor at Rutgers University, and the ho= st of the YouTube show and podcast Give Them An Argument. He= =E2=80=99s the author of several books, most recently Christopher Hit= chens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He Still Matters.

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Photo: Andreas Gora/Zuma Press *Berlin* When German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier awarded Joe Biden the Grand Cross special class of the German Order of Merit in Bellevue Palace here last week, it was a moment of vindication for the beleaguered American president. The only other American so honored was George H.W. Bush, who supported German unification at the end of the Cold War against objections from Russia, Britain and France. Mr. Biden believes that the U.S.-German partnership is the foundation of the trans-Atlantic alliance. As the West faces challenges from a newly energized and aggressive group of authoritarian and totalitarian revisionist powers, Mr. Biden thinks the U.S.-German partnership will stand at the heart of the alliance of democracies united in defense of the current world order. The Trump administration, as Mr. Biden sees it, failed to grasp the centrality of this alliance, with devastating consequences around the world. Rebuilding Washington=E2=80=99s alliance with Berlin was the core of= Mr. Biden=E2=80=99s strategy to reassert American leadership. His stance is app= reciated in Germany, and Mr. Steinmeier spoke for millions of his fellow citizens when he told Mr. Biden at the ceremony, =E2=80=9CSir, when you were elected president, you restore= d Europe=E2=80=99s hope in the trans-Atlantic alliance literally overnight.= =E2=80=9D But there=E2=80=99s a fly in the ointment. Mr. Steinmeier went on to say, = =E2=80=9CAnd then, only a year later, came Putin=E2=80=99s war. When Putin invaded Ukrai= ne, he didn=E2=80=99t just go after one country. He attacked the very principles o= f peace in Europe.=E2=80=9D As Mr. Steinmeier conspicuously did not say but undoubtedly knows, some 32 months in, Russia is winning. Despite draconian sanctions, a hobbled economy, a corrupt state, and poorly trained officers and troops, Mr. Putin=E2=80=99s forces are driving Ukraine=E2=80=99s army back step by step= while Russian air attacks cripple Ukraine=E2=80=99s energy infrastructure. Meanwhile, pro= -Russia parties are expanding across the former East Germany, and a chorus of American voices are demanding an end to U.S. support for Ukraine. Team Biden, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and their North Atlantic Treaty Organization counterparts deserve credit for rallying to Ukraine=E2=80=99s = defense and preventing its collapse in the opening months of the war. Without Western help, most if not all of Ukraine would likely now be occupied by the Russians. Even so, the NATO allies=E2=80=99 inability to defeat a Russi= an invasion in their backyard broadcasts an unmistakable signal of weakness around the world. China and North Korea are shedding their worries about Western threats and stepping up their support of Mr. Putin=E2=80=99s invasi= on. Early in the war, Washington and Berlin believed that Mr. Putin was headed for defeat. Sanctions would cripple his economy, and public discontent would inexorably mount as the war dragged on. Western technology would give Ukraine enough of an edge on the battlefield to block Russian offensives, and in the end Mr. Putin would come to the West looking for an off-ramp from a ruinous war. Those were the good old days. Most Western observers now believe Mr. Putin=E2=80=99s hold on his country is rock solid. His economy has adjusted= to a war footing, and deepening partnerships with North Korea, China and Iran keep him well-supplied with weapons, technology and reportedly even North Korean mercenary troops. Kyiv is trapped in a war of attrition against a larger foe. The West faces the prospect of years of increasingly expensive subsidies and military assistance for Ukraine. What the Scholz and Biden teams now want is an off-ramp from Mr. Putin. A compromise peace in which Ukraine surrenders territory to Russia but gains NATO and European Union membership would, they hope in Washington and Berlin, be acceptable to Kyiv and bring a not-too-humiliating end to a costly and dangerous war. Mr. Putin, unfortunately, isn=E2=80=99t in the business of offering easy of= f-ramps. Sensing Western war-weariness and Ukrainian weakness, he will probably demand a high price for peace. His territorial demands will likely be large. And letting Ukraine join NATO is not on his to-do list. There are three things Mr. Putin wants from the war: as much of Ukraine=E2= =80=99s territory and population as he can conquer, Russian vetoes over the foreign and economic policy of what is left of Ukraine after the war, and a substantial weakening of both NATO and the EU. Although the costs are high, every day of the war brings Mr. Putin closer to all three objectives. These are hard truths that neither Team Biden nor Team Scholz wants to face=E2=80=94and to which they have no realistic response. Mr. Biden is wel= come to his Order of Merit, but as he prepares to leave office, the partnership between Germany and the U.S. is failing its most important test since the presidency of George H.W. Bush. --000000000000ff871a06250e0f93 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Puti= n=E2=80=99s Rising Price for Peace in Ukraine

Facing years of aid for a costly war, the Wes= t is now likely to seek, not offer, an off-ramp.

3D"Walter

By Walter Russell Mead=

Oct. 21, 2024

3D""German President Frank-Walter Steinme= ier and President Joe Biden in Berlin, Oct. 18. Photo: Andreas Gora/Zuma Press

Berlin

When German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier awarde= d Joe Biden the Grand Cross special class of the German Order of Merit in Bellevue=20 Palace here last week, it was a moment of vindication for the=20 beleaguered American president. The only other American so honored was Geor= ge H.W. Bush, who supported German unification at the end of the Cold War a= gainst objections from Russia, Britain and France.

Mr. Biden believes that the U.S.-German partnership is the foundation of=20 the trans-Atlantic alliance. As the West faces challenges from a newly=20 energized and aggressive group of authoritarian and totalitarian=20 revisionist powers, Mr. Biden thinks the U.S.-German partnership will=20 stand at the heart of the alliance of democracies united in defense of=20 the current world order.

The Trump administration, as Mr. Biden sees it, failed to grasp the=20 centrality of this alliance, with devastating consequences around the=20 world. Rebuilding Washington=E2=80=99s alliance with Berlin was the core of= Mr.=20 Biden=E2=80=99s strategy to reassert American leadership. His stance is=20 appreciated in Germany, and Mr. Steinmeier spoke for millions of his=20 fellow citizens when h= e told Mr. Biden at the ceremony, =E2=80=9CSir, when you were elected president, you restor= ed=20 Europe=E2=80=99s hope in the trans-Atlantic alliance literally overnight.= =E2=80=9D

But there=E2=80=99s a fly in the ointment. Mr. Steinmeier went on to say, =E2= =80=9CAnd=20 then, only a year later, came Putin=E2=80=99s war. When Putin invaded Ukrai= ne,=20 he didn=E2=80=99t just go after one country. He attacked the very principle= s of=20 peace in Europe.=E2=80=9D

As Mr. Steinmeier conspicuously did not say but undoubtedly knows, some 32 months in, Russia is winning. Despite draconian sanctions, a hobbled=20 economy, a corrupt state, and poorly trained officers and troops, Mr.=20 Putin=E2=80=99s forces are driving Ukraine=E2=80=99s army back step by step= while=20 Russian air attacks cripple Ukraine=E2=80=99s energy infrastructure. Meanwh= ile,=20 pro-Russia parties are expanding across the former East Germany, and a=20 chorus of American voices are demanding an end to U.S. support for=20 Ukraine.

Team Biden, = German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and their North Atlantic Treaty Organization counterparts deserve=20 credit for rallying to Ukraine=E2=80=99s defense and preventing its collaps= e in=20 the opening months of the war. Without Western help, most if not all of=20 Ukraine would likely now be occupied by the Russians. Even so, the NATO=20 allies=E2=80=99 inability to defeat a Russian invasion in their backyard=20 broadcasts an unmistakable signal of weakness around the world. China=20 and North Korea are shedding their worries about Western threats and=20 stepping up their support of Mr. Putin=E2=80=99s invasion.

Early in the war, Washington and Berlin believed that Mr. Putin was headed=20 for defeat. Sanctions would cripple his economy, and public discontent=20 would inexorably mount as the war dragged on. Western technology would=20 give Ukraine enough of an edge on the battlefield to block Russian=20 offensives, and in the end Mr. Putin would come to the West looking for=20 an off-ramp from a ruinous war.

Those were the good old days. Most Western observers now believe Mr. Putin=E2=80= =99s=20 hold on his country is rock solid. His economy has adjusted to a war=20 footing, and deepening partnerships with North Korea, China and Iran=20 keep him well-supplied with weapons, technology and reportedly even=20 North Korean mercenary troops. Kyiv is trapped in a war of attrition=20 against a larger foe. The West faces the prospect of years of=20 increasingly expensive subsidies and military assistance for Ukraine.

What the Scholz and Biden teams now want is an off-ramp from Mr. Putin. A=20 compromise peace in which Ukraine surrenders territory to Russia but=20 gains NATO and European Union membership would, they hope in Washington=20 and Berlin, be acceptable to Kyiv and bring a not-too-humiliating end to a costly and dangerous war.

Mr. Putin, unfortunately, isn=E2=80=99t in the business of offering easy off-r= amps. Sensing Western war-weariness and Ukrainian weakness, he will probably=20 demand a high price for peace. His territorial demands will likely be=20 large. And letting Ukraine join NATO is not on his to-do list.

There are three things Mr. Putin wants from the war: as much of Ukraine=E2=80=99= s=20 territory and population as he can conquer, Russian vetoes over the=20 foreign and economic policy of what is left of Ukraine after the war,=20 and a substantial weakening of both NATO and the EU. Although the costs=20 are high, every day of the war brings Mr. Putin closer to all three=20 objectives.

These are hard truths that neither Team Biden nor Team Scholz wants to=20 face=E2=80=94and to which they have no realistic response. Mr. Biden is wel= come=20 to his Order of Merit, but as he prepares to leave office, the=20 partnership between Germany and the U.S. is failing its most important=20 test since the presidency of George H.W. Bush.

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Photo: Donald Low] Donald Low Published: 12:30pm, 20 Oct 2024 Despite being one of the first populous Southeast Asian countries to achieve middle-income status in the early 1990s, Thailand has struggled to escape the middle-income trap. Its gross domestic product per capita last year was about US$7,000 =E2=80=93 just over half of China and neighbouring Malaysia . The Asian financial crisis in 1997-98, which originated in Thailand, savaged the country=E2=80=99s economy, destabilised its banks and financial= system, and set back its development prospects. It took Thailand nearly a decade to regain its pre-crisis level of GDP per capita. Since then, growth has averaged just over 4 per cent annually =E2=80=93 too low for a middle incom= e economy. Last month, the World Bank released its World Development Report 2024 titled =E2=80=9CThe Middle-Income Trap=E2= =80=9D. The report highlights the central challenge for economies like Thailand=E2=80= =99s: while high investments and technology diffusion can elevate a country from low- to middle-income status, advancing to high-income status =E2=80=93 wit= h a GDP per capita of at least US$14,000 =E2=80=93 requires developing domestic inn= ovation capacity. Foreign visitors to Thailand=E2=80=99s capital, Bangkok, are often surprise= d to learn about this stagnation. The city=E2=80=99s gleaming skyscrapers, luxur= y hotels and condominiums, high-end shopping centres and fine dining options create the illusion of a vibrant, innovative economy well on its way to high-income status within a decade or so. [image: A view of Bangkok=E2=80=99s skyline. Gleaming skyscrapers and high-= end condominiums do not always signify economic success. Photo: Donald Low] A view of Bangkok=E2=80=99s skyline. Gleaming skyscrapers and high-end cond= ominiums do not always signify economic success. Photo: Donald Low A real estate glut During a recent visit to Bangkok, I was struck by the proliferation of new luxury hotels and shopping malls compared to just five years ago. The massive One Bangkok complex, for instance =E2=80=93 developed in a prev= iously rundown area by TCC Group, one of Thailand=E2=80=99s biggest family-owned conglomerates =E2=80=93 is architecturally and aesthetically impressive. Bu= t one must question the development utility of such mega-projects. While they enhance the city=E2=80=99s visual appeal for residents and tourists, they a= re unlikely to contribute to Thailand=E2=80=99s long-term growth or innovation= . They also exacerbate economic and spatial inequality, as older, more affordable neighbourhoods are replaced by expensive developments. In developing countries, an abundance of luxury property often signals improper allocation of financial resources, with capital flowing into speculative activities that may be privately profitable but offer few benefits for overall development. The real estate sector typically does not enhance a country=E2=80=99s technological capacity or improve workers=E2=80= =99 skills and productivity. Worse, heavy investments in real estate are usually accompanied by rising corporate and household debt levels, creating asset bubbles. When these bubbles burst, the societal costs =E2=80=93 including diminished wealth, lo= wer consumption, taxpayer-funded bailouts, and economic setbacks =E2=80=93 far = exceed any short-term benefits, as seen in China=E2=80=99s current struggles. The tourism industry also contributes little to technological development. Thailand=E2=80=99s tourism sector is unusually large, accounting for about = 11 per cent of GDP. However, a key reason for Thailand=E2=80=99s sluggish growth i= n recent years has been the slow return of Chinese tourists post-pandemic. More importantly, most jobs in tourism =E2=80=93 whether in hotels and rest= aurants or arts and culture =E2=80=93 tend to be less amenable to automation, limit= ing potential productivity gains compared to other sectors. Tourism is also less scalable as increasing the use of machinery to serve more customers often results in lower quality, which can in turn reduce demand. [image: A hotel lobby in Bangkok. Tourism, which accounts for about 11 per cent of Thailand=E2=80=99s output, is less scalable than other sectors of t= he economy. Photo: Donald Low] A hotel lobby in Bangkok. Tourism, which accounts for about 11 per cent of Thailand=E2=80=99s output, is less scalable than other sectors of the econo= my. Photo: Donald Low Manufacturing concerns An abundance of real estate development diverts crucial capital and resources =E2=80=93 such as land and labour =E2=80=93 from more productive = economic activities. While Thailand boasts a sizeable and reasonably competitive manufacturing sector, making up about one-third of its economy, it remains dominated by multinational corporations. Thai conglomerates primarily focus on agriculture, resources and less technology-intensive services, reflecting a common pattern in middle-income trap countries: local firms find it easier to succeed in less tradeable sectors like services, while manufacturing faces global competition. Although attracting multinational investment in sectors like automotives and electronics is beneficial, overreliance on foreign firms hampers the growth of home-grown enterprises. Without the government support that South Korea and China provided to their export-oriented industries, Thai manufacturers struggle to secure affordable financing for expansion, technological upgrades, and research and development. Multinationals also typically invest little in research and development in developing nations due to a lack of hi-tech skills and scientific capabilities. This creates an intractable chicken-and-egg dilemma: the multinationals lack incentives to engage in advanced manufacturing without skilled workers, while workers have little motivation to acquire the requisite skills when there are few existing jobs that require them. [image: The new One Bangkok complex. Real estate development can divert crucial capital and resources from manufacturing. Photo: Donald Low] The new One Bangkok complex. Real estate development can divert crucial capital and resources from manufacturing. Photo: Donald Low Political constraints Such coordination challenges generally require government intervention, whether in the form of subsidies for research and development or incentives for students to pursue science and technology programmes. But a third constraint holds back middle-income trap countries like Thailand: politics. Unlike those Asian economies that have successfully industrialised such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and more recently, China, Thailand lacks a strong political consensus on the criticality of economic restructuring and technology upgrades. The country=E2=80=99s politics remain consumed by a Gordian Knot of deep-se= ated conflicts: between rich and poor, labour and capital, formal and informal workers, and the established conglomerates that dominate the services economy versus newer manufacturing and tech firms. And until a few years ago, between the =E2=80=9Cred shirts=E2=80=9D and the =E2=80=9Cyellow shirt= s=E2=80=9D. These conflicts often stem from the policies or factors that enabled Thailand=E2=80=99s rapid growth from low- to middle-income status. But upon reaching upper-middle-income status, these issues now inhibit and impede the country=E2=80=99s development =E2=80=93 detracting from the long-term t= ask of technology development and economic restructuring. Although there are competent technocrats in the Thai government, they find it immensely challenging to formulate sound economic policies for the long term in a political environment that is often myopic and highly polarised. *Donald Low is Senior Lecturer and Professor of Practice at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology as well as Director of Leadership and Public Policy Executive Education.* --000000000000ea4f0906250e358a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Asian Angle=C2=A0|=C2=A0Why Thailand failed to escape the middle-i= ncome trap

Despite early success, Thailand=E2=80=99s growth has stagnated =E2=80=93 as flashy= developments siphon resources away from innovation and productivity

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Despite being one of the first populous South= east Asian countries to achieve middle-income status in the early 1990s,=C2= =A0Thailand=C2= =A0has struggled to escape the middle-income trap. Its gross domestic product=20 per capita last year was about US$7,000 =E2=80=93 just over half of China a= nd=20 neighbouring=C2=A0Malaysia<= /span>.

The Asian financial crisis in 1997-98, which originated in Thailand,=20 savaged the country=E2=80=99s economy, destabilised its banks and financial= =20 system, and set back its development prospects. It took Thailand nearly a decade to regain its pre-crisis level of GDP per capita. Since then,=20 growth has averaged just over 4 per cent annually =E2=80=93 too low for a m= iddle income economy.

Last month, the=C2=A0<= span style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-style:inher= it;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-heigh= t:inherit;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit= ;font-feature-settings:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;border:0px;word-brea= k:break-word">World Bank=C2=A0released its World Development Report 2024 titled =E2=80=9CThe Middle-Income Trap= =E2=80=9D. The=20 report highlights the central challenge for economies like Thailand=E2=80= =99s:=20 while high investments and technology diffusion can elevate a country=20 from low- to middle-income status, advancing to high-income status =E2=80= =93=20 with a GDP per capita of at least US$14,000 =E2=80=93 requires developing= =20 domestic innovation capacity.

Foreign visitors to Thailand=E2=80=99s capital, Bangkok, are often surprised to le= arn=20 about this stagnation. The city=E2=80=99s gleaming skyscrapers, luxury hote= ls=20 and condominiums, high-end shopping centres and fine dining options=20 create the illusion of a vibrant, innovative economy well on its way to=20 high-income status within a decade or so.

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A real estate glut

During a recent visit to Bangkok, I was struck by the proliferation of new=20 luxury hotels and shopping malls compared to just five years ago.

The massive One Bangkok complex, for instance =E2=80=93 developed in a previou= sly=20 rundown area by TCC Group, one of Thailand=E2=80=99s biggest family-owned= =20 conglomerates =E2=80=93 is architecturally and aesthetically impressive. Bu= t one must question the development utility of such mega-projects. While they enhance the city=E2=80=99s visual appeal for residents and tourists, they = are=20 unlikely to contribute to Thailand=E2=80=99s long-term growth or innovation= .=20 They also exacerbate economic and spatial inequality, as older, more=20 affordable neighbourhoods are replaced by expensive developments.

In developing countries, an abundance of luxury property often signals=20 improper allocation of financial resources, with capital flowing into=20 speculative activities that may be privately profitable but offer few=20 benefits for overall development. The real estate sector typically does=20 not enhance a country=E2=80=99s technological capacity or improve workers= =E2=80=99=20 skills and productivity.

Worse, heavy investments in real estate are usually accompanied by rising=20 corporate and household debt levels, creating asset bubbles. When these=20 bubbles burst, the societal costs =E2=80=93 including diminished wealth, lo= wer=20 consumption, taxpayer-funded bailouts, and economic setbacks =E2=80=93 far= =20 exceed any short-term benefits, as seen in China=E2=80=99s current struggle= s.

Th= e tourism industry also contributes little to technological development.=20 Thailand=E2=80=99s tourism sector is unusually large, accounting for about = 11=20 per cent of GDP. However, a key reason for Thailand=E2=80=99s sluggish grow= th in recent years has been the slow return of=C2=A0Chinese tourists=C2=A0post-pandemic.=

More importantly, most jobs in tourism =E2=80=93 whether in hotels and restaura= nts=20 or arts and culture =E2=80=93 tend to be less amenable to automation, limit= ing=20 potential productivity gains compared to other sectors. Tourism is also=20 less scalable as increasing the use of machinery to serve more customers often results in lower quality, which can in turn reduce demand.

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A hotel lobby in Bangkok. Tourism, which accounts for about 11 per cent=20 of Thailand=E2=80=99s output, is less scalable than other sectors of the=20 economy. Photo: Donald Low

Manufacturing concerns

An abundance of real estate development diverts crucial capital and=20 resources =E2=80=93 such as land and labour =E2=80=93 from more productive = economic=20 activities.

While Thailand boasts a sizeable and reasonably competitive manufacturing=20 sector, making up about one-third of its economy, it remains dominated=20 by multinational corporations. Thai conglomerates primarily focus on=20 agriculture, resources and less technology-intensive services,=20 reflecting a common pattern in middle-income trap countries: local firms find it easier to succeed in less tradeable sectors like services,=20 while manufacturing faces global competition.

Although attracting multinational investment in sectors like automotives and=20 electronics is beneficial, overreliance on foreign firms hampers the=20 growth of home-grown enterprises. Without the government support that=C2=A0= South Korea= =C2=A0and China provided to their export-oriented industries, Thai manufacturers=20 struggle to secure affordable financing for expansion, technological=20 upgrades, and research and development.

Multinationals also typically invest little in research and development in developing=20 nations due to a lack of hi-tech skills and scientific capabilities.=20 This creates an intractable chicken-and-egg dilemma: the multinationals=20 lack incentives to engage in advanced manufacturing without skilled=20 workers, while workers have little motivation to acquire the requisite=20 skills when there are few existing jobs that require them.

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The new One Bangkok complex. Real estate development can divert crucial=20 capital and resources from manufacturing. Photo: Donald Low

Political constraints

Such coordination challenges generally require government intervention,=20 whether in the form of subsidies for research and development or=20 incentives for students to pursue science and technology programmes. But a third constraint holds back middle-income trap countries like=20 Thailand: politics.

Unlike those Asian economies that have successfully industrialised such as=20 Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and more recently, China,=20 Thailand lacks a strong political consensus on the criticality of=20 economic restructuring and technology upgrades.

The country=E2=80=99s politics remain consumed by a Gordian Knot of deep-seate= d=20 conflicts: between rich and poor, labour and capital, formal and=20 informal workers, and the established conglomerates that dominate the=20 services economy versus newer manufacturing and tech firms. And until a=20 few years ago, between the =E2=80=9Cred shirts=E2=80=9D and the =E2=80=9Cye= llow shirts=E2=80=9D.

These conflicts often stem from the policies or factors that enabled=20 Thailand=E2=80=99s rapid growth from low- to middle-income status. But upon= =20 reaching upper-middle-income status, these issues now inhibit and impede the country=E2=80=99s development =E2=80=93 detracting from the long-term = task of=20 technology development and economic restructuring.

Although there are competent technocrats in the Thai government, they find it=20 immensely challenging to formulate sound economic policies for the long=20 term in a political environment that is often myopic and highly=20 polarised.

Donal= d Low is Senior Lecturer and Professor of Practice at the Hong Kong=20 University of Science and Technology as well as Director of Leadership=20 and Public Policy Executive Education.

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charset=utf-8 A pending "October Surprise?" = https://nypost.com/2024/10/21/us-news/trump-urges-bibi-to-do-what-he-wants= -to-do-with-potential-iran-strike/ "Former President Donald Trump says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin = Netanyahu should =E2=80=9Cdo what he wants to do=E2=80=9D with regards = to a potential retaliatory strike = against = Iran.=E2=80=9D There is speculation that Netanyahu and his fascist cohorts are ready to = commit the ultimate =E2=80=9Cdirty trick=E2=80=9D (see below) on = Americans and the world to get their co-ideologues Trump/Vance elected, = with an October Surprise of an attack on Iran. Timed of course to give = Trump/Vance maximal electoral value.=20 Republican/Conservative electoral "dirty tricks=E2=80=9D never end, as I = found out as the State Coordinator in the MN SOS Office for the Help = America Vote Act and Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act = from 2004 - 2008. They never stop with their lies and making up new = ones. Under the Republican SOS my first two years, who=E2=80=99d hired = me, she, and Republican legislators, would complain endlessly if a = service-member claimed they didn=E2=80=99t get a ballot from their home = county if under a Democrat Election=E2=80=99s Administrator.Which, when = I investigated, would inevitably turn out to be the fault of their = military unit or military mail system to some far-off imperial base.=20 Thankfully, that Republican SOS lost her bid for re-election to a = Democrat who believed in democracy and citizen participation in voting, = and the first thing he did was to enlist me to help get legislation = passed to remove the obstacles to military and overseas voting, with the = military connections I had in the State.=20 After I went on to Guantanamo, the = Republicans/Conservatives/libertarians, brought in the =E2=80=9CBig = Guns=E2=80=9D to amplify their lies, the Charles Koch funded ALEC, and = charged that under the Democrat, illegal voting was rampant in MN. And = that MN was on of the worst in the country for that, placing that = message on billboards, and on Opinion pages. A pure, Big Lie, as is all = of Koch=E2=80=99s propaganda operations in getting Republicans elected = to do his bidding. I hear Koch even set up a =E2=80=9CRealist and = Restraint Foreign Policy=E2=80=9D think tank to mislead dunces into = believing the =E2=80=9CRepublican Party=E2=80=9D is the party of = =E2=80=9CForeign Policy Restraint,=E2=80=9D when the truth (something = foreign to Koch operations) is the opposite, as anyone here knows if = they ever took an interest in U.S. foreign policy. But in today=E2=80=99s America, a sucker is born every micro-second, and = there=E2=80=99s no end of gullible people if something is said often = enough. Especially amongst Republicans, old or young, however untruthfu, = as the ends always justifies the means for Republicans, far more than = the Democrats (excluding the likes of Hilary Clinton and the Goldwater = Democrats) as I found out first hand in the MN SOS Office at the hands = of the Republican Party.=20 > = https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-judge-republicans-overseas-military-= voters-2024-election/?utm_campaign=3Ddfn-ebb&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source= =3Dsailthru >=20 > Michigan judge rebuffs GOP bid to block ballots of some overseas, = military family voters > By Graham Kates October = 21, 2024 / 4:15 PM EDT > A Michigan judge on Monday rejected a Republican effort to set aside = ballots from some overseas voters who cast their votes in the key = Midwestern battleground. >=20 > Judge Sima Patel wrote that the Republican effort came too close to = Election Day, calling it an "11th hour attempt to disenfranchise" voters = who include the families of those "serving our country in the armed = forces and diplomatic corps." >=20 > "The federal government requires states to permit absent uniformed = services and overseas voters, as well as their spouses and dependents, = to apply for and vote," Patel wrote. >=20 > Patel's order came after a rushed hearing was held last Thursday, just = nine days after the Michigan Republican Party and Republican National = Committee filed the lawsuit against Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn = Benson. The lawsuit challenged instructions allowing the spouses and = adult children of overseas Michigan residents to vote in the state as = long as they're not registered elsewhere. >=20 > An attorney for the state last week called the lawsuit "simply devoid = of legal merit," but said even if that were not the case, it's too close = to the election to implement the changes sought by Republicans. >=20 > Michigan, which has 15 electoral votes, is one of the seven = battleground states that could prove decisive in the race for the White = House, giving the legal battle over overseas voters added weight. >=20 > Court arguments focused on the children and spouses of military, = diplomatic and other service personnel overseas. Lawyers for the = Republican Party argued that the rules allow people to cast votes in = Michigan even if they've never lived there. Patel appeared skeptical at = the hearing. >=20 > As GOP attorney Jonathan Koch argued that the party's interpretation = of the law did not "penalize" service personnel who move overseas, Patel = interrupted, asking if in fact the opposite was true. >=20 > "Doesn't your interpretation penalize the spouses and dependent = children who may have been born overseas and matured, reached age 18 = overseas?" Patel asked Koch. "Doesn't it penalize the children of = overseas service people?" >=20 > "I don't think I would use the word 'penalize,'" he said.=20 >=20 > "It's your word," Patel said, laughing. >=20 > The lawsuit asked Patel to order Benson's office "to segregate ballots = cast by overseas voters who have never resided in Michigan including = ballots of overseas voters =E2=80=A6 [to] ascertain the scope of the = constitutional violation and whether it [a]ffects the election's = outcome." >=20 > Benson's office also asked for the lawyers who filed the suit, which = her office called "frivolous," to be sanctioned. Patel rejected that = request. >=20 > The case is among several filed by Republican-aligned lawyers in = recent weeks in Michigan, Pennsylvania and North Carolina challenging = the legitimacy of some overseas ballots. The effort prompted a group of = congressional Democrats to write to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin on = Oct. 11, asking that he ensure that "overseas military personnel and = Americans abroad retain their right to participate fully in U.S. = elections." >=20 > Graham Kates > Graham Kates is an investigative reporter covering criminal justice, = privacy issues and information security for CBS News Digital. Contact = Graham at KatesG@cbsnews.com or grahamkates@protonmail.com >=20 > =C2=A9 2024 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. --Apple-Mail=_3799C375-0769-4CFA-9D2C-056BB8F4862A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

A pending "October Surprise?"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/21/= us-news/trump-urges-bibi-to-do-what-he-wants-to-do-with-potential-iran-str= ike/

"Former President Donald Trump says Israeli = Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should =E2=80=9Cdo what he wants to = do=E2=80=9D with regards to a potential retaliatory strike against = Iran.=E2=80=9D

There is = speculation that Netanyahu and his fascist cohorts are ready to commit = the ultimate =E2=80=9Cdirty trick=E2=80=9D (see below) on Americans and = the world to get their co-ideologues Trump/Vance elected, with an = October Surprise of an attack on Iran. Timed of course to give = Trump/Vance maximal electoral value. 



Republican/Conservative electoral "dirty tricks=E2=80=9D = never end, as I found out as the State Coordinator in the MN SOS Office = for the Help America Vote Act and Uniformed and Overseas Citizens = Absentee Voting Act from 2004 - 2008. They never stop with their lies = and making up new ones. Under the Republican SOS my first two years, = who=E2=80=99d hired me, she, and Republican legislators, would complain = endlessly if a service-member claimed they didn=E2=80=99t get a ballot = from their home county if under a Democrat Election=E2=80=99s = Administrator.Which, when I investigated, would inevitably turn out to = be the fault of their military unit or military mail system to some = far-off imperial base. 


Thankfully, that Republican SOS lost her bid for re-election to a = Democrat who believed in democracy and citizen participation in voting, = and the first thing he did was to enlist me to help get legislation = passed to remove the obstacles to military and overseas voting, with the = military connections I had in the State. 


After I went on to Guantanamo, the = Republicans/Conservatives/libertarians, brought in the =E2=80=9CBig = Guns=E2=80=9D to amplify their lies, the Charles Koch funded ALEC, and = charged that under the Democrat, illegal voting was rampant in MN. And = that MN was on of the worst in the country for that, placing that = message on billboards, and on Opinion pages. A pure, Big Lie, as is all = of Koch=E2=80=99s propaganda operations in getting Republicans elected = to do his bidding. I hear Koch even set up a =E2=80=9CRealist and = Restraint Foreign Policy=E2=80=9D think tank to mislead dunces into = believing the =E2=80=9CRepublican Party=E2=80=9D is the party of = =E2=80=9CForeign Policy Restraint,=E2=80=9D when the truth (something = foreign to Koch operations) is the opposite, as anyone here knows if = they ever took an interest in U.S. foreign policy.


But in today=E2=80=99s America, a sucker is born = every micro-second, and there=E2=80=99s no end of gullible people if = something is said often enough. Especially amongst Republicans, old or = young, however untruthfu, as the ends always justifies the means for = Republicans, far more than the Democrats (excluding the likes of Hilary = Clinton and the Goldwater Democrats) as I found out first hand in the MN = SOS Office at the hands of the Republican Party. 




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-judge-r= epublicans-overseas-military-voters-2024-election/?utm_campaign=3Ddfn-ebb&= amp;utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dsailthru

Michigan judge rebuffs GOP bid to block ballots = of some overseas, military family voters

By =20 Graham = Kates

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A Michigan judge on Monday rejected a = Republican effort to set aside ballots from some overseas voters who = cast their votes in the key Midwestern battleground.

Judge Sima Patel wrote that the Republican = effort came too close to Election Day, calling it an "11th hour attempt = to disenfranchise" voters who include the families of those "serving our = country in the armed forces and diplomatic corps."

"The federal government requires states to = permit absent uniformed services and overseas voters, as well as their = spouses and dependents, to apply for and vote," Patel wrote.

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Patel's order came after a rushed = hearing was held last Thursday, just nine days after the Michigan = Republican Party and Republican National Committee filed the lawsuit = against Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. The lawsuit = challenged instructions allowing the spouses and adult children of = overseas Michigan residents to vote in the state as long as they're not = registered elsewhere.

An attorney for = the state last week called the lawsuit "simply devoid of legal merit," = but said even if that were not the case, it's too close to the election = to implement the changes sought by Republicans.

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Michigan, which has 15 electoral votes, is = one of the seven battleground states that could prove decisive in the = race for the White House, giving the legal battle over overseas voters = added weight.

Court arguments focused = on the children and spouses of military, diplomatic and other service = personnel overseas. Lawyers for the Republican Party argued that the = rules allow people to cast votes in Michigan even if they've never lived = there. Patel appeared skeptical at the hearing.

As GOP attorney Jonathan Koch argued that the party's = interpretation of the law did not "penalize" service personnel who move = overseas, Patel interrupted, asking if in fact the opposite was = true.

"Doesn't your interpretation = penalize the spouses and dependent children who may have been born = overseas and matured, reached age 18 overseas?" Patel asked Koch. = "Doesn't it penalize the children of overseas service people?"

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"I don't think I would use the word = 'penalize,'" he said. 

"It's your = word," Patel said, laughing.

The = lawsuit asked Patel to order Benson's office "to segregate ballots cast = by overseas voters who have never resided in Michigan including ballots = of overseas voters =E2=80=A6 [to] ascertain the scope of the = constitutional violation and whether it [a]ffects the election's = outcome."

Benson's office also asked = for the lawyers who filed the suit, which her office called "frivolous," = to be sanctioned. Patel rejected that request.

The case is among several filed by Republican-aligned lawyers in = recent weeks in Michigan, Pennsylvania and North Carolina challenging = the legitimacy of some overseas ballots. The effort prompted a group of = congressional Democrats to write to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin on = Oct. 11, asking that he ensure that "overseas military personnel and = Americans abroad retain their right to participate fully in U.S. = elections."

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Graham Kates

Graham Kates is an = investigative reporter covering criminal justice, privacy issues and = information security for CBS News Digital. Contact Graham at = KatesG@cbsnews.com or grahamkates@protonmail.com

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Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:37:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:37:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Gilbert Doctorow To: "salon-request@listserve.com" , "salon@listserve.com" Message-ID: <1322296190.4767967.1729600659731@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4767966_324408089.1729600659728" References: <1322296190.4767967.1729600659731.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22806 YMailNorrin Subject: [Salon] =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=98Dialogue_Works=E2=80=99_edition_of_22?= =?utf-8?q?_October=3A_BRICS_and_the_Conflicts_in_Ukraine_and_Middle_East?= X-BeenThere: salon@listserve.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion List for the Committee For The Republic List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:37:44 -0000 ------=_Part_4767966_324408089.1729600659728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2024/10/22/dialogue-works-edition-of-22-october= -brics-and-the-conflicts-in-ukraine-and-middle-east/ =E2=80=98DialogueWorks=E2=80=99 edition of 22 October: BRICS and the Confli= cts in Ukraine and MiddleEast Thismorning=E2=80=99s BBC World News featured an interview with a universit= y professor inthe U.K. who acknowledged that the about to open BRICS Summit= in Kazan is avery important event indeed given the large number of global = leaders inattendance.=C2=A0 Other Western media wereattentive to the event = and exercised something resembling responsiblejournalism instead of the usu= al anti-Russian propaganda. Not theWhite House spokesperson, Karine Jean-Pierre who was completely dism= issive,seeing nothing in the Kazan gathering worthy of comment. In light ofthis special position on the subject taken by official America, = I would not beat all surprised if either Israel or Ukraine, both client sta= tes of the USAshould, in the words of =E2=80=98Dialogue Works=E2=80=99 host= Nima Alkhorshid =E2=80=9Cdo somethingstupid.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 Indeed, if Isr= ael finallystages its long-delayed reprisal strike on Iran in the coming tw= o days that wouldfit nicely into my assertion that Israel is the tail that = the dog (Washington)waves. We shall see soon. The questionof what BRICS represents in today=E2=80=99s world was central t= o today=E2=80=99s chat. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DONwaZzVpQ7s ------=_Part_4767966_324408089.1729600659728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=E2=80=98Dialogue Works=E2=80=99 edition of 22 October: BRICS and the Conflicts in Ukraine an= d Middle East

This morning=E2=80=99s BBC World News featured an interview with a university pr= ofessor in the U.K. who acknowledged that the about to open BRICS Summit in Kazan is a very important event indeed given the large number of global leaders in attendance.  Other Western media were attentive to the event and exercised something resembling responsible journalism instead of the usual anti-Russian propaganda.

Not the White House spokesperson, Karine Jean-Pierre who was completely dismissive, seeing nothing in the Kazan gathering worthy of comment.

In light of this special position on the subject taken by official America, I would not= be at all surprised if either Israel or Ukraine, both client states of the USA should, in the words of =E2=80=98Dialogue Works=E2=80=99 host Nima Alkhorsh= id =E2=80=9Cdo something stupid.=E2=80=9D  Indeed, if Israel finally stages its long-delayed reprisal strike on Iran in the coming two days that= would fit nicely into my assertion that Israel is the tail that the dog (Washingt= on) waves. We shall see soon.

The question of what BRICS represents in today=E2=80=99s world was central to today=E2= =80=99s chat.

See https://www.yout= ube.com/watch?v=3DONwaZzVpQ7s





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