Syria could allow Russia to keep its bases, new defense minister says
In
an interview, Murhaf Abu Qasra, a onetime leader in Syria’s insurgency,
discussed moves by authorities in Damascus to build new alliances.
February 6, 2025 The Washington Post
Syria's new defense minister, Murhaf Abu Qasra, at an interview with Reuters in Damascus on Jan. 19. (Yamam Al Shaar/Reuters)
DAMASCUS,
Syria — Syria is open to letting Russia keep its air and naval bases
along the Mediterranean coast as long as any agreement with the Kremlin
serves the country’s interests, Syrian Defense Minister Murhaf Abu Qasra
said in an interview this week, underscoring the pragmatic approach
taken by his government as it charts new alliances and reassesses old
ones forged under the previous regime.
Russia’s
attitude toward the new Syrian government has “improved significantly”
since the fall of President Bashar al-Assad in December, and Damascus is
weighing Moscow’s demands, Abu Qasra said, signaling a dramatic shift
among the former militants who make up the government.
Until
recently, rebel fighters like Abu Qasra, a key leader in Syria’s
insurgency, were under constant bombardment by Russian warplanes. But
“in politics, there are no permanent enemies,” he said of Moscow, once
Assad’s most powerful ally. Asked if Russia would be allowed to maintain
its naval port at Tartus and the Hmeimim air base in Latakia, Abu Qasra
said: “If we get benefits for Syria out of this, yes.”
In
a wide-ranging interview Sunday in Damascus, Abu Qasra, 40, discussed
Syria’s moves to build new military and political partnerships, its
efforts to negotiate with U.S.-backed Kurdish forces, and its ambitious
plans to bring the country’s plethora of armed factions, which
mushroomed during the civil war, under the control of a single, unified
command.
He
spoke from his office in the Defense Ministry building, where the
former regime’s seal has been ripped from the facade. Abu Qasra, a
trained agricultural engineer, served as a first lieutenant in Assad’s
military before he enlisted with the rebels, later joining Jabhat
al-Nusra, a onetime offshoot of al-Qaeda.
He
said he chose the group in 2013 because it fielded some of the best
fighters, rather than for ideological reasons. Syria then was in the
throes of full-blown civil war, after the Assad government launched a
brutal crackdown on a largely peaceful uprising that started during the
Arab Spring.
Now,
Abu Qasra’s ministry is taking on the monumental task of rebuilding a
fractured army in a country deeply scarred by more than a decade of
bloodletting. Syria is also considering defense agreements with multiple
countries, he said, and entering sensitive negotiations with both the
United States and Turkey over the status of their established military
bases here.
Militants celebrate the fall of the Assad regime in central Damascus on Dec. 9. (Lorenzo Tugnoli for The Washington Post)
Russia
was a major adversary during the war, intervening in 2015 to prop up
Assad and his military while unleashing waves of devastating airstrikes
on rebel-held regions.
But
now, in addition to international legitimacy and support, the Kremlin
could deliver something Syria’s new government wants badly: the former
president, who fled by plane to Moscow as his rule suddenly collapsed in
early December.
The
defense minister, dressed in a blue suit without a tie, declined to
directly confirm whether Syria’s interim president, Ahmed al-Sharaa,
requested Assad’s extradition when he met with Russian officials late
last month. But the issue of holding Assad accountable was raised during
the meeting, he said.
“When
Bashar al-Assad decided to go to Russia, he thought that it was
impossible for us to reach an agreement” with the Russians, Abu Qasra
said. “Perhaps relations with them will be restored in a way that serves
Syria’s interests first and then their interests,” he said.
The
Russian delegation, led by Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov,
did not comment on whether the two sides discussed Assad’s status. “We
expressed gratitude for the fact that our citizens and facilities were
not damaged as a result of the events of recent weeks,” Bogdanov said of
the talks with Sharaa on Jan. 28, according to Russian state news
agency Tass.
He said an agreement on Russia’s military presence “requires additional negotiations.”
“So far, nothing has changed,” Bogdanov said. “We agreed to continue more in-depth consultations.”
For now, Russia, which had numerous bases and outposts across Syria, has drawn its military personnel and assets back
from all but the two installations in Tartus and Latakia. They are of
deep strategic value to Russia — particularly the naval base, which
gives Moscow a coveted warmwater port on the Mediterranean Sea.
Syria
last month terminated a contract with a Russian company to operate the
commercial side of the Tartus port, according to Syrian officials, but
the future of Russia’s military footprint remains unclear.
The
government in Damascus is also negotiating the status of U.S. and
Turkish military bases in Syria, Abu Qasra said, and new military
agreements with Ankara could involve a reduction or “redistribution” of
Turkish troops in the country, he added.
The
issue of whether the United States will maintain a military presence in
the country’s northeast is “under negotiation,” he said.
U.S.
troops first entered Syria in 2015 as part of an effort to battle the
Islamic State militant group, backing the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic
Forces, which control swaths of territory on the border with Turkey and
Iraq. About 2,000 U.S. troops remain both in the northeast and at a
remote base in southern Syria.
“Everyone
was waiting for Trump to come to power, and the issue needs some time
between the U.S. administration and the new Syrian government,” Abu
Qasra said of the negotiations.
On
Sunday, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said that Turkey, Syria,
Iraq and Jordan could come together to fight what remains of the Islamic
State, allowing the United States to cut ties with the SDF. Turkey sees
the predominantly Kurdish fighting force as a threat to its territory.
Syria's
interim president, Ahmed al-Sharaa, and Turkish President Recep Tayyip
Erdogan after a joint news conference in Ankara on Feb. 4. (Cagla
Gurdogan/Reuters)
Since
seizing power two months ago, Sharaa has set out to try to bring the
Kurdish-controlled enclaves — which amount to about 25 percent of Syrian
territory — back under state control.
Abu
Qasra declined to comment on details of the negotiations, but he said
he believes that the issue will be solved diplomatically. The government
rejected the SDF’s offer to merge into the Defense Ministry as a
unified bloc.
Sharaa’s
goal is to ensure that the region comes under the authority of Damascus
and that the government controls the prisons in the area, Abu Qasra
said. “The military solution will cause bloodshed on both sides,” he
said. “According to our assessment, the solution will be peaceful. We
are not inclined toward a military solution.”
The
SDF still runs prisons and camps for the displaced that include
thousands of members of the Islamic State. Abu Qasra said that because
of this, a controlled handover of power from U.S.-backed Kurdish forces
was critical. But, he added, his military is ready for “any scenario.”
In an interview with the Economist last week, Sharaa said that Turkey was pushing for a “full-fledged war” in the northeast but that Syria had asked Ankara for space for negotiations.
In
the weeks after Assad fell, U.S. officials said that they anticipated
some level of integration between the SDF and the new government,
including security and military forces, but that Syria’s Kurds would
probably not end up with their own semi-autonomous region. Damascus has
ruled out any kind of self-rule for the area.
Abu
Qasra said that about 100 of Syria’s armed factions have agreed to come
under the umbrella of the Defense Ministry. There are several holdouts,
he said, including Ahmad al-Awda, a rebel leader in the south who has
resisted attempts to bring his unit under state control.
The
groups that join the Defense Ministry’s command will not be allowed to
stay in their current units, Abu Qasra said, and all factions will
ultimately be dissolved.
As
he spoke about the efforts to keep Syria stable, Abu Qasra pointed at
the flecks of gray in his beard. “In a few months,” he said, “I will
have a lot of white hair.”
Missy Ryan and Mary Ilyushina in Washington contributed to this report.