Re: [Salon] Nightmare

Bravo (Ray for pushing back to Spytalk.  . Jeff should know enough and be sophisticated enough not to be drawn in to this crude partisan line. But I am afraid he is very much in the majority, and we in the minority, well summed up in the phrase of.Putin Versteher. I wonder sometimes whether this outrageous myth of "unprovoked, Russian aggression" and bowing to Russian expansionism will not enter into the language as a "fact that everybody knows." It is deeply disturbing to see what should be a more sophisticated world view on the part of Jeff is corrupted by the bought and paid for "Washington narrative." JD Vance might well have touched upon this as well in his otherwise remarkable speech. And how is it that "sophisticated, educated, worldly and experienced" people like ourselves, seemingly are out in the cold, unable to persuade people to our perspective. Maybe that is always the way of the world,

But the story is not over. And we even have Tucker Carlson on our side! I don't even know whether I am on the "right" or "left" anymore...

G



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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 11:00 PM, Raymond L McGovern via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:


RELAX Jeff, you don’t have to publish everything your intelligence sources whisper. I refer to your latest -- “Nightmare: Trump Sides with Putin, Abandons the Atlantic Alliance, Sells Out Ukraine”. … in which you describe as THE Nightmare Question: Has the president of the United States flipped? Is he now, in effect, a knowing, willing asset of the former Soviet KGB agent?” You guys tried that one before, Jeff. Have you forgotten how silly it was? Let David Sanger promote this drivel; the NYTimes pays him to do it.

Ray McGovern



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