How the Signal transcript undermines key Trump administration claims
The
transcript undermines the claims that they weren’t “war plans” and
testimony from key figures that they didn’t recall discussions of
weapons or timing.
March 26, 2025 at 10:59 a.m. The Washington Post
President Donald Trump with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth in the Oval Office last week. (Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post)
At
the end of Tuesday’s Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, Sen. Jon
Ossoff (D-Georgia) offered a warning to Director of National
Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe. Gabbard and
Ratcliffe had danced around questions about the administration’s discussion of military plans on an unsecure app that inadvertently included a journalist.
“And
by the way, we will get the full transcript of this chain, and your
testimony will be measured carefully against its content,” Ossoff
assured them.
We
now have the transcript, and it indeed undermines several claims the
administration has made over the past two days about the burgeoning
scandal — including at that hearing.
The content of the Signal chat
was published Wednesday morning by the Atlantic, whose editor in chief,
Jeffrey Goldberg, was inadvertently included on the texts and which
broke the story Monday.
The
Atlantic said it was publishing the details, which it had previously
concluded were too sensitive to publish, because of the administration’s
efforts to downplay the text chat’s contents. The administration has
indicated the information somehow wasn’t actually classified,
despite the danger of such information about impending military strikes
falling into the wrong hands and tipping off an adversary. The Trump
administration has also generally dismissed the situation as a small
“mistake” or a “glitch.”
Let’s run through some of the claims.
Claim No. 1: They weren’t “war plans”
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has said twice that the information contained in the chat weren’t “war plans.”
“As I also stated yesterday, nobody’s texting war plans, and that’s all I have to say about that,” Hegseth said Tuesday.
It’s
difficult to see how the details discussed in the chat don’t constitute
war plans. And even if you very narrowly construe that phrase, these
were obviously highly sensitive operational details of a military
action.
In
one crucial text, Hegseth lays out a detailed timeline for striking
Yemen’s Houthi rebels. The text was apparently sent at 11:44 a.m.
Eastern time, with details of strikes set for 12:15, 13:45, 14:10, 14:15
and 15:36 p.m. (The text used military time.)
“THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets,” Hegseth said of the 14:15 strikes.
Each
entry features the type of aircraft or weaponry used, including F-18s,
strike drones and “sea-based Tomahawks.” One entry notes that a specific
“Target Terrorist” is expected to be “@ his Known Location.”
Reinforcing how strained Hegseth’s claim has become, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt and other administration social media accounts
claimed Wednesday that because the Atlantic’s headline labeled these
“attack plans,” that meant the journalists were conceding they weren’t
actually “war plans.”
This
has clearly become a semantic game. But what’s also clear is that top
administration officials were sharing highly sensitive information on an
unsecure app, ahead of the actual strikes. That raised the possibility
that the information could fall into the wrong hands and American troops
could be endangered or the mission could fail.
And tellingly, despite downplaying the Signal chat, the White House actually objected
to the Atlantic publishing these texts. While the Trump administration
claimed they were somehow not classified, it said they constituted
“internal and private deliberation amongst high-level senior staff” and
said “sensitive information was discussed.”
Claim No. 2: Gabbard and Ratcliffe didn’t recall talk of weapons or timing
Gabbard and Ratcliffe, who were on the Signal chat thread, struggled mightily to account for the situation at Tuesday’s hearing.
And the transcript calls into question a few of their responses — most
notably when they said they didn’t recall prominent details that are now
evident in the messages published by the Atlantic.
“Did
this conversation at some point include information on weapons
packages, targets or timing?” asked Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico).
FBI
Director Kash Patel said, “Not that I’m aware of.” Gabbard followed
with, “Same answer and defer to the Department of Defense on that
question.”
HEINRICH: Those are two different answers, but you are saying that did not — that was not part of the conversation?
At
another point, Gabbard said in an exchange with Sen. Mark Kelly
(D-Arizona) that she didn’t recall specific weapons being discussed:
KELLY: Was there — was there any mention, Ms. Gabbard, of a weapon or weapons system?
Ratcliffe also said, “I don’t recall,” to this question.
Gabbard also indicated she didn’t recall discussion of timing:
KELLY: How about anything about timing? Ms. Gabbard?
The
texts make it clear that plenty of these kinds of specific details were
discussed. Gabbard and Ratcliffe said they didn’t recall many of these
things rather than denying them outright. When they did deny things,
they cited the Defense Department rather than their own knowledge.
But these discussions took place less than two weeks ago, and Gabbard and Ratcliffe were included on them.
A
military attack is also one of the most serious and sober actions the
U.S. government undertakes. It strains credulity to think that such
senior intelligence officials wouldn’t have consumed the details of what
was being discussed, even if they somehow didn’t review the information
before testifying.
Claim No. 3: Goldberg might have hacked his way in
This
was the conspiracy theory du jour late Tuesday. During an appearance on
Fox News host Laura Ingraham’s show, national security adviser Michael
Waltz baselessly suggested that Goldberg might have found his way into
the Signal chat through nefarious means.
“You
know, Laura, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but of all the people out
there, somehow this guy who has lied about the president … he’s the one
that somehow gets on somebody’s contact and then gets sucked into this
group,” Waltz said.
Pressed
on precisely what he was saying, Waltz expanded: “Well, if you have
somebody else’s contact and then it — and then somehow it gets sucked
in.”
“I don’t text him. He wasn’t on my phone,” Waltz said. “And we’re going to figure out how this happened.”
Trump also suggestively alluded to this idea.
“The person that was on just happens to be a sleazebag, so maybe that’s just coincidence,” Trump said. “I don’t know.”
There was no evidence for this theory Tuesday. And now the images of the text indicate Waltz did invite Goldberg to the chat.
At the top of the texts from Goldberg’s messages is this line: “Michael Waltz added you to the group.”